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re: Trump expected to end his fight to add citizenship question to census
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:32 pm to Jack Prenderville
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:32 pm to Jack Prenderville
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It is amazing people believe stuff like this with all the evidence we have. We have people all the way from Africa and the Middle East crossing the southern border and you want me to believe this?
Your ignorance on this subject doesn't surprise me:
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The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, people who overstayed their visas accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 2:33 pm
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:33 pm to frankthetank
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resident Donald Trump is expected to announce later Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census,
frick that. Make the left earn the defeat, not back down like a chickenshit.
Oh and frick John Roberts. His obsession over being apolitical has made the court more political.
If it wasn't for the iraq war, Roberts would be the biggest mistake W 43 has ever made as President.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:34 pm to frankthetank
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Trump expected to end his fight to add citizenship question to census
Pretty much sums up his presidency tbh
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:34 pm to Sentrius
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If it wasn't for the iraq war, Roberts would be the biggest mistake W 43 has ever made as President.
I think a strong argument can be made for George W Bush being worse for this country than Obama all things considered.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:35 pm to tigerinDC09
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the irony is that the Trump admin's incompetency is what caused this.
When you're right, your're right.
Trump has only himself to blame on this and he earned the loss on this one, especially giving up so easily.
Trump may be the brawler we need right now but he's not a very precise and focused fighter when we need him to be.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:37 pm to tigerinDC09
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The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, people who overstayed their visas accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.
How exactly would they know this? How exactly do they know the true number of illegals here?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:38 pm to tigerinDC09
The case for asking the question and using it to determine representation is simple if you take the argument to its logical conclusion.
If you think it’s no big deal to include a few illegals here and there when determining congressional representation, you should also have no problem with the extreme case. What if suddenly 15 million people in the same year illegally immigrated to Southern California and were given sanctuary. Can’t vote, but living there.
Now the census comes around, and suddenly California takes electoral college and congressional numbers from smaller states that didn’t have massive total population gains. The number of voting citizens in California did not increase, but their voting power did simply because they had a massive influx of illegals to grow their population.
You want an example of disenfranchisement of voters, I cannot think of a better example.
If you think it’s no big deal to include a few illegals here and there when determining congressional representation, you should also have no problem with the extreme case. What if suddenly 15 million people in the same year illegally immigrated to Southern California and were given sanctuary. Can’t vote, but living there.
Now the census comes around, and suddenly California takes electoral college and congressional numbers from smaller states that didn’t have massive total population gains. The number of voting citizens in California did not increase, but their voting power did simply because they had a massive influx of illegals to grow their population.
You want an example of disenfranchisement of voters, I cannot think of a better example.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:39 pm to tigerinDC09
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"We have made tremendous progress since the year 2000 in reducing undocumented immigration into this country,
This quote from that article is absurd
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:40 pm to frankthetank
Just a few days ago there was an article saying Barr found a way to get it added. Probably using the 14 amendment argument that was floated on the WSJ.
Townhall
I guess we will find out after the social media summit going on now as there is supposed to be a news conference about the census afterwards.
Townhall
I guess we will find out after the social media summit going on now as there is supposed to be a news conference about the census afterwards.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:41 pm to tigerinDC09
It isn't 2016-2017 anymore.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:42 pm to jchamil
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How exactly would they know this? How exactly do they know the true number of illegals here?
They don't. Which is what makes his post so funny. I mean they were using the 11 million Illegals number as far back as the mid to late 1990's but they want us to believe this hasn't changed?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:45 pm to Jack Prenderville
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They don't. Which is what makes his post so funny. I mean they were using the 11 million Illegals number as far back as the mid to late 1990's but they want us to believe this hasn't changed?
Their preferred "undocumented immigrants" they like to use straight up tells you they have no idea how many there are
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:46 pm to frankthetank
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Trump expected to end his fight to add citizenship question to census
#winning
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:46 pm to Jack Prenderville
ABC? Please. How many times does Trump have to speak up to put down fake news before you assume it's fake news whenever it comes from "news" organizations like ABC, NBC, CBS, etc?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:48 pm to crewdepoo
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#winning
What is actually being won? Great, another brainless moron who believes all the shite shoveled in him by his masters. Bravo slave, way to be a "team" player
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:48 pm to mightyMick
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"news" organizations like ABC, NBC, CBS
Lol
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:48 pm to frankthetank
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will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to survey the American public on the question through other means
What does that even mean and how much money will be wasted on it?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:49 pm to Jack Prenderville
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I think a strong argument can be made for George W Bush being worse for this country than Obama all things considered.
43 was the perfect caricature of a neoconservative having way too much power and we saw the end result of that and it was so bad it gave us Obama.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:49 pm to jchamil
Round em up. Go to these new housing subdivisions and clean house. Quit waiting and just do it. Shite or get off the pot Trump!
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:50 pm to DemonKA3268
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Bravo slave, way to be a "team" player
#triggered
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