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re: Trump EPA to cut Energy Star program.

Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:21 am to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5506 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:21 am to
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When can I have my normal light bulbs back? My stash will eventually run out!


Some newer fixtures on fit the smaller bulbs. It's crazy how over involved the EPA is in our lives. Obama banning lead fishing baits made me want to fight him.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23483 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:22 am to
A lot of downvotes in this thread with no supported arguments that support why this program was worth it.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70355 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:24 am to
Should be an Energy Department program or a non-profit private cert program.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:25 am to
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Shadow libs are downvoting the frick out of these responses. Lol





They are mad as frick
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:26 am to
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Some newer fixtures on fit the smaller bulbs. It's crazy how over involved the EPA is in our lives. Obama banning lead fishing baits made me want to fight him.


Remember the fiasco of the 1/2 gallon or less per flush toilet? Was supposed to save all this precious water but just resulted in more flushes...
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:26 am to
Saving the enivornment and consumers billions aren't reason enough?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47530 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:27 am to
They make the machines more expensive, dumbass.

ETA: and nearly impossible to service. But if people are shopping based on low power consumption, companies will answer that call without gov mandates that cost taxpayers "billions".
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 9:30 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:27 am to
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Saving the enivornment and consumers billions aren't reason enough?


Government involvement in anything NEVER results in a positive outcome in either of the scenarios you mentioned above...
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23483 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:27 am to
I just want to say that greenhouse gasses is not a climate change measure to my knowledge.

It is a proposed factor in climate change; however, what does a certain amount of greenhouse gas equal in climate change units? What are the units of climate change? I guess temperature change.

If there is a economic reason for business to make "energy efficient" equipment then they will there is no reason to waste money on forcing it.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:28 am to
The reason why your washer and dryer fails is due to the cheap quality of parts the company uses to save money not because of energy star.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157548 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:28 am to
Dbap, p.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157548 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:29 am to
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They are mad as frick


It happens to those women. Weak AF.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:30 am to
The cost of metal is more expensive than plastic. That's why. That and companies design their products to fell so you have to buy another.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:30 am to
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Good. No one gaf about this stupid shite.


i do. i look for it. i know a lot of people who do.

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Low power consumption is a competitive advantage that will happen naturally in a free marketplace.


you honestly believe this?
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:31 am to
"Remember the fiasco of the 1/2 gallon or less per flush toilet? Was supposed to save all this precious water but just resulted in more flushes..."

Haha I remember my Dad paying the plumber $50.00 to cut holes in all of the plastic water saving things inside every toilet to "get the shite out of here!"
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23483 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:31 am to
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Saving the enivornment and consumers billions aren't reason enough?


How is it quantifiably saving the environment? Did it statistically make an end result difference?

Is it really the reason consumers saved "billions"? Have they really saved billions? So the competitive advantage for the product is energy savings. Did the product manufacturer just absorb the savings? If it was just a win-win for everyone why wouldn't the manufacturer do it without the program?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5506 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:33 am to
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not because of energy star.


Don't believe I ever said that. Congrats on arguing with yourself.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:34 am to
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Wait until your parents stop paying for your crap. You will.




ok... done.

Still don't care. Now what?

Try saying something not retarded.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47530 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:34 am to
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you honestly believe this?


Yes. Did fluorescent lighting not exist before 2012? Did auto manufacturers not offer fuel efficient vehicle options before CAFE laws were passed?

Of course they did. If this is driving buying decisions, the market will respond. It always has.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:36 am to
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That and companies design their products to fell


Really?



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