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re: Trump declaring an emergency will turn the US socialist

Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:48 pm to
It's a dangerous precedent. When the Dems take over they'll do the same for climate change and firearms
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72607 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:53 pm to
CHICKEN CAN WE GET A LITMUS TEST ON THIS BOARD? i mean just IQ wise?

this OP needs to join the VCURAMS assclown in the stupid bin
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39730 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:54 pm to
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It's a dangerous precedent.
It really isn't. not saying they won't try but the courts have ruled on the Presidents power over immigration.

Any emergency for guns would be tossed out by the Supreme Court without a doubt. Nothing on the books gives the President power to tax the hell out of people over the climate.

Quit buying into the hysteria. There is Precedent thanks to Obama and his dreamers when it comes to immigration. He opened the door for Trump. Just like Democrats are the ones who destroyed the filibuster giving McConnell the nuclear option. Trump is simply using a tool exploited by Democrats FIRST.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19511 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:55 pm to
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If a socialist minded President gets elected then look out.


They better..A socialist President will not survive, period.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:55 pm to
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growth of illegal alienism not an emergency to you?


unless he also makes it a felony to hire one this is just theater.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98669 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:58 pm to
The statute itself very limiting
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Honest question because I don't really know? Is Trump being granted any special privilege that wasn't available or used by previous presidents?



No, but he is paving the way for future presidents to do the same , left or right
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
1384 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:09 pm to
Too bad there is not something like a National Epidemic of Mass Opioid Deaths wiping out the heart of the country , which could be curved drastically, by a Physical, Southern Border Wall, Funded by a Declaired National Emergency from Our President

Think of how sick an individual must be, to seek out a drug that is known to have an O/D BodyCount.

Think about how many people in a large crowd, who would be on Heroine. Now think bout everyone of those people swapping needles Burners. Each one having a revolver to their head and got 4 of’em locked & hot, while they steadily snapping steel, standing in that same crowd.

It’s probably something like 3:10..
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 9:12 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260206 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:14 pm to
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Quit buying into the hysteria.


I'm not. Ruling by EO is alarming regardless of the party in power. Everyone should agree.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10911 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:32 pm to
They should really remove the word emergency and just say executive action or something.

Have y’all seen the list of current national emergencies? There is one involving the country of Burundi.

I think the point of criticism goes back to should we use billions of taxpayer money for this supposed “emergency.” And yes the next dem President will most certainly use this in logic to declare their own and divert untold billions.

It’s socialism, and spending your money that wasn’t approved by an elected congress.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39730 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:27 am to
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Everyone should agree.

Did Trump offer concession to Pelosi? Multiple times?

$5 billion is nothing. It is less than California spends on illegal services per year.

They simply refused to do something that might help the country to spite Trump. That is a simple undeniable fact.

If Trump believes this is a crisis. Then I have no problem with him using his Executive powers. Democrats have already abused the hell out of Executive powers and there is absolutely no reason to believe they won't increase the abuse next time they are in office.

Combination of spineless Republicans and TDS filled democrats. I don't have a problem with him using Executive powers. Did he not try the standard way.

How may times over the last month have liberals on here mocked conservatives saying we should have passed the wall legislation by circumventing cloture. See. They mocked us for trying the correct way to pass legislation. They are willing to use any rule / trick in the book. Time we pony up and do the same because nothing is going to stop the escalation.
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