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re: Trump considering winding down military operations in Iran

Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:52 pm to
"Completely" was an adjective used. "Eliminated" also seemed to punctuate the level of thoroughness.

Are you saying that those words don't mean what the dictionary says that they mean?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:55 pm to
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Lessen or to a degree eliminate a primary source of instability in the world geopolitical balance, which influences global trade and economic climate, which somewhere down the line will eventually affect everyone, to varying degrees;

Eliminates a primary impediment to what otherwise could or would potentially be truly historic peace relations and treaties amongst former foes in that part of the world, which again, presents new opportunities and economic relations for American interests to have access to;

Eliminates a primary impediment to OPEC oil production/operations/trade etc, which as we all know can and will eventually affect all of us on a local/personal level “at the pump”;

In the short term we have literally had the exact opposite effect. We don't know what will happen long term. I'm optimistic that there might be a way out of this and things return to normal. Other than my optimism there isn't anything to suggest that will actually happen.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:57 pm to
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No it isn’t. Your imagination has gotten the best of you and you’ve greatly exaggerated it in your mind.

And you're imagination would probably have to be off in a different universe if you thought it was 2 weeks for real this time. The evidence to support this claim is essentially "trust me bro"
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:58 pm to
How about you quote or link the full transcript of the statement(s), so we can ensure that you’re not conveniently referencing only bits and pieces, ignoring other indispensable context.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 7:59 pm to
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And you're imagination would probably have to be off in a different universe if you thought it was 2 weeks for real this time. The evidence to support this claim is essentially "trust me bro"


It literally doesn't matter. He could have justified the attack any number of ways and it still wouldn't matter.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:01 pm to
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It literally doesn't matter. He could have justified the attack any number of ways and it still wouldn't matter.

It matters if none of them are true. And if certainly matters if this shite turns sideways and it it certainly could. And you could argue it already has.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:01 pm to
Well, again, those are merely hastily put together examples that immediately came to mind. As far as debating the topic of each, that will only be a subjective debate or discussion at this time because too many critical aspects and factors remain TBD.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:02 pm to
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It matters


Only to you people who find fault in everything he does anyways. So I'll reiterate, no, it does not matter. Your opinions about the things he says or does do not matter.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:02 pm to
Yeah a lot of things remain TBD. The idea that they'll all get better long term "could" be looked at as a delusional fantasy.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:02 pm to
I just think it’s dumb to actually believe that anyone of actual importance has parroted “two weeks, two weeks” over and over again. It’s pure OMB TDS myth.
Posted by texas tortilla
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:03 pm to
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if Trump leaves, I suspect all those military bases in the middle east will be shut down.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:03 pm to
Good. And people will still try labeling him a neocon because they're stupid.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:04 pm to
Sure, that’s a fact of life. Yeah, some people think you’re delusional. Probably maybe someone out there could hypothetically think Im delusional. It’s just one of those things in life, always in the background.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:05 pm to
If this ends up with the U.S. driven out of the middle east, I will praise DJT for the 4D chess.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41532 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:05 pm to
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President Trump: “Monumental Damage was done to all Nuclear sites in Iran, as shown by satellite images. Obliteration is an accurate term! The white structure shown is deeply imbedded into the rock, with even its roof well below ground level, and completely shielded from flame. The biggest damage took place far below ground level. Bullseye!!!”


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our goal.”

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth: “Based on everything we have seen — and I’ve seen it all — our bombing campaign obliterated Iran’s ability to create nuclear weapons. Our massive bombs hit exactly the right spot at each target and worked perfectly. The impact of those bombs is buried under a mountain of rubble in Iran; so anyone who says the bombs were not devastating is just trying to undermine the President and the successful mission.”


whitehouse.gov
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:07 pm to
Well, get ready for it. He's already saying that he's leaving the strait to the countries that use it because we don't. He gave NATO a loyalty test that they all failed too. He's telling the world frick you right to their faces. I agree with the other poster. I think we will end up shutting those bases down.

Everything appears to be shifting our influence out of the east and into the western hemisphere. As it should be.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:10 pm to
Yeah, obliterated what they had in that moment. Im sure they wouldn’t have fathomed the possibility that folks would be out here needing to be directly told that “And by the way, it’s not like somehow suddenly impossible for them to start back in an attempt to rebuild.” I wouldn’t think I’d actually have to specify that “rebuilding - possible and in fact likely” and “rebuilding = bad.” Intentionally avoiding or ignoring common sense facts and concepts is a bad look.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:11 pm to
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Iran was not rebuilding nuclear enrichment, US intelligence finds


woof......
Posted by CalTiger53
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:11 pm to
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I just think it’s dumb to actually believe that anyone of actual importance has parroted “two weeks, two weeks” over and over again. It’s pure OMB TDS myth.

It was claimed this time. And you can't escape that reality.
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