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re: Trump comes out strongly against port automation
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Those are ridiculous takes to cover for yalls move leftward.
You are showing ignorance Roger. I gave you words STRAIGHT from the GOP prior to the daddy Romney and Daddy Bush wing rise.
Those aren't takes. Those are straight up GOP stances embedded into the platform.
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:04 pm to BCreed1
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You are showing ignorance Roger.
How does moving leftward "stick it to the GOP?"
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:09 pm to Street Hawk
We are falling behind by putting off port automation. It is inevitable that this is going to happen. It just puts us behind others who are already moving that direction.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How does moving leftward "stick it to the GOP?"
Try this once more. Read the words in front of you and comprehend
What I wrote was the difference between the GOP prior to Romeny and Bush and that wing rose to power and the GOP post that.
In other words, the GOP was changed by Romney's wing from that.
In other words, we are going back to our ROOTS.
In other words, The GOP prior to Romney and Bush wings was different.
And last, IN THE GOP'S OWN WORDS PRIOR TO ROMNEY AND BUSH:
We believe in tariff protection for Agriculture, Labor, and Industry, as essential to our American standard of living
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:10 pm to BCreed1
I've got news for you, and The Shrub for that matter since he likes to claim I am a union lover in other threads;
I've despised unions since I was old enough to know what one is as I grew up in a car dealership owning family. The UAW was the cause of the downfall of American automakers and their parts operations. I've loathed unions for over 40 years.
And, you may want to revisit what you believe my thoughts are on tariffs as you apparently think I am in the same camp as The Shrub.
Claiming I am a "taught", whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, modern GOP'er is both laughable and idiotic. I despise the McCain's and Romeny's of the world and was a big fan of Buchannan, so take your shite somewhere else.
I've despised unions since I was old enough to know what one is as I grew up in a car dealership owning family. The UAW was the cause of the downfall of American automakers and their parts operations. I've loathed unions for over 40 years.
And, you may want to revisit what you believe my thoughts are on tariffs as you apparently think I am in the same camp as The Shrub.
Claiming I am a "taught", whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, modern GOP'er is both laughable and idiotic. I despise the McCain's and Romeny's of the world and was a big fan of Buchannan, so take your shite somewhere else.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:12 pm to BCreed1
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In other words, we are going back to our ROOTS.
You claim the GOP was for unions prior to the late 2000's.
Laughable. Give us some links.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:17 pm to BuckyCheese
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I've despised unions since I was old enough to know what one is as I grew up in a car dealership owning family. The UAW was the cause of the downfall of American automakers and their parts operations. I've loathed unions for over 40 years.
That's you. And I am ok with that. But your opinion isn't what the GOP's opinion was, and these are the party's words:
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Collective bargaining is an obligation as well as a right, applying equally to workers and employers
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And, you may want to revisit what you believe my thoughts are on tariffs as you apparently think I am in the same camp as The Shrub.
I was simply pointing out that the history of the GOP is not what people think.
GOP is and was pro tariffs. FDR introduced free trade and the Romney wing embraced it. And btw, it's interesting how much Romeny and the Bush wings go along with all the dems on many issues.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Please go look at the facts over the last decade. It is not just a democrat talking point but the reality of what is happening is right in our face.
The rich do not care if a steak is $65. The middle class cannot afford a $25 hamburger with fries.
The rich do not care if a steak is $65. The middle class cannot afford a $25 hamburger with fries.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:22 pm to PUB
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It is not just a democrat talking point but the reality of what is happening is right in our face.
Protectionism doesnt work.
Democrat policies are doomed to fail because they are run on emotion, not rationality.
If yall want less efficiency, less choice and higher prices, youre on the right path.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:23 pm to BCreed1
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In other words, the GOP was changed by Romney's wing from that.
According to MAGA influencers, yes.
Not according to anyone else.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:23 pm to BCreed1
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We believe in tariff protection for Agriculture, Labor, and Industry, as essential to our American standard of living
It will reduce your standard of living.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:26 pm to BuckyCheese
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You claim the GOP was for unions prior to the late 2000's.
Laughable. Give us some links.
This is exactly the reason I posted to you about not knowing history.
Pretty sure you will find every Republican platform from 1920 to 1996 its support in principle for collective bargaining.
Contrary to popular belief, the Republican presidents of the 1920s—Harding, Coolidge and Hoover—were far to the pro-labor “left” of today’s libertarian Republicans. The 1920 Republican platform declared: “We recognize the justice of collective bargaining as a means of promoting good will, establishing closer and more harmonious relations between employers and employees and realizing the true ends of industrial justice.”
Nixon:
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“America’s growth cannot be compartmentalized. Labor and management cannot prosper without each other. They cannot ignore their mutual public obligation. Industrial harmony, expressing these mutual interests, can best be achieved in a climate of free collective bargaining"
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:26 pm to BCreed1
The GOP gave lip service to unions while also supporting right to work laws.
To claim the GOP was pro union prior to 2010 is laughable.
To claim the GOP was pro union prior to 2010 is laughable.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Protectionism doesnt work.
Wrong.
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Democrat policies are doomed to fail because they are run on emotion, not rationality.
GOP has always been pro tariff until your buddy Romney.
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If yall want less efficiency, less choice and higher prices, youre on the right path.
Since the idea of free trade and the take over of the GOP by the wing that Romney belongs to, the middle class has been crushed.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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According to MAGA influencers, yes.
Not according to anyone else.
No sir. According to the words of the GOP prior to MAGA being a thing.
You can't change history Roger. You are just wrong.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:32 pm to BCreed1
You need some Uncle Milton in your life.
Youtube Link
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I'm aware that you will not watch, but your answers are here.
Youtube Link
Youtube Link
I'm aware that you will not watch, but your answers are here.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:35 pm to BCreed1
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Wrong.
Its subsidizing Big Corp, once you start it you have to keep it going.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:43 pm to BuckyCheese
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The GOP gave lip service to unions while also supporting right to work laws.
Is that why they passed laws in support? Did not realize that was lip service.
The first federal law giving workers a right to organize and bargain came under a Republican, Calvin Coolidge — that was the Railway Labor Act, passed in 1926.
Nixon signed the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970.
“Only a handful of unreconstructed reactionaries harbor the ugly thought of breaking unions,” Eisenhower
But ok... have it your way.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:43 pm to PUB
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The rich do not care if a steak is $65.
Inflation is caused by monetary policy, period.
We need less money in the system, not more. Protectionism is inflationary.
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Populist politicians argue that protectionism stimulates the domestic economy. This column uses data on temporary trade barriers from antidumping investigations to show that when small open economies have imposed protectionist measures, it has caused inflation to rise and real economic activity to fall. Empirical analysis and model-based exercises show that protectionism is costly even when used temporarily, even for economies stuck in liquidity traps, and regardless of the flexibility of the exchange rate.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:54 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
As you say its coming. I would hope it is introduced and integrated but slowly.
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