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re: Trump comes out strongly against port automation

Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:06 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299438 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:06 am to
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You’re not seeing the big picture. If an essential job like that is automated, eventually everything, including menial sectors, will be as well.
Where will people get gainful employment once that happens?


The same as when steel plants closed and auto factories shut down.

You seem to think dock work is all these people can do.

Yalls protectionism is a sure way to lose out on being the worlds largest economy. China is already blowing past us with EVs
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 7:08 am
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
2239 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:07 am to
Lol, you work at a dock and want your job automated?
I call bullshite, unless you’re in middle management of course.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299438 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:09 am to
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Lol, you work at a dock and want your job automated?


It could wipe out most of our inefficiencies, yes. I can find other work. I mainly push paper, can do that anywhere.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28132 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:09 am to
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The swamp is very influential.



This has nothing to do with the swamp. This is Trump playing to the populists, just like he's been doing since he discovered the power of it.

Anybody surprised by this hasn't been paying attention.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
2239 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:10 am to
You’re not following the trend and the rate at which automation is exponentially infiltrating the economy. Hell, even McDonald’s is embracing the removal of human employees.
Do you not recall what happened to the areas of the country where steel and auto plants shut down?
Lol, you’re destroying your own argument here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299438 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:10 am to
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You’re not following the trend and the rate at which automation is exponentially infiltrating the economy.


and you pretend this is a bad thing.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
2239 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:10 am to
Paper is being phased out too. You’re speaking like a true out of touch desk jockey that doesn’t work with their hands.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:11 am to
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I understand that this will piss many off, especially the smooth-brained Libertarian cultists, but it turns out that just a bit of organized labor is actually a foundation of liberalism and is not automatically an anathema to efficiencies of conservatism and capitalism.


"Conservatives" simping for unions.

And somehow *I* am the one that's changed
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82339 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:11 am to

This is feel good stuff.

There is no way that progress can be staved off forever.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299438 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:13 am to
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Paper is being phased out too


Its a figure of speech.

Yes, most industries have become automated, jobs shift accordingly. Thats how the real world works.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28132 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:14 am to
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This is feel good stuff.


For morons.

I swear, he could propose a Federal Buggy Whip factory to create jobs and a decent chunk of posters here would support it.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:15 am to
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Why in the hell should a president be able to decide if ports can be automated or not?


Hey shouldn't.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18881 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:16 am to
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"Conservatives" simping for unions.

And somehow *I* am the one that's changed


everything is about you
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:16 am to
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I get it, but the position he is taking has nothing to do with performance and efficiency. It’s about human jobs, workers, income and more than likely staking a position to slow or limit automation that puts people out of work.

I have never been pro union, but do recognize that the goal can’t be to ultimately put everyone out of work as a result of AI.

People just have to adapt and learn these cushy jobs aren't a right.

As we used to say on here regularly, this is like saying we need to protect the candlemakers and the horse buggy artisans in the late 19th century and thwart electricity and automobiles.

This was not a complicated issue on here until the demographics of the discussion changed.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9480 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:16 am to
Disappointed
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:17 am to
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I swear, he could propose a Federal Buggy Whip factory to create jobs and a decent chunk of posters here would support it.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:18 am to
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everything is about you

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of these "small government conservatives" who are now supporting fricking unions and their overpaid, inefficient jobs that were selectively protected due to political ties while everyone else suffers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299438 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:18 am to
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I swear, he could propose a Federal Buggy Whip factory to create jobs and a decent chunk of posters here would support it.


Yep, I have no doubt they would push for horses and buggies if Trump decided it was necessary to save jobs.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:18 am to
I thought Trump was extreme right wing lol. Maybe...just maybe...every republican from here out, till eternity will be labeled "extreme right wing"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299438 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:19 am to
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"small government conservatives" who are now supporting fricking unions and their overpaid, inefficient jobs


Good ole cronyism. The swamp in real time.

They are becoming what they have fought against most of their lives.

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