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re: Trump claims Ukraine and Russia have agreed to energy ceasefire

Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:17 pm to
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We’re enemies remember that


Lol. We're not enemies. I think both Jbird and you can make some good points.

I can't think of any policy disagreements we have.
For instance, I'm glad that we all agree with Massie...and now Trump...that there shouldn't be sanctions on Russia:

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Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:25 pm to
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Your in agreement with yourself that's about it.


You started a good thread. People contributed bits of information that supplemented what you started to fill in the picture. It's the kind of thread that's really useful. Thanks for starting it.

Did you see ONE scrap of additional information that suggested President Trump wasn't lying about the existence of an "energy truce?"

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:28 pm to
Meh your fixation is noted.

Now tell me more about Putin having unlimited oil sales

That's not your first "innocent" error.

It's why you start threads you know the answer to it's simple really

Now stick to having no respect and considering posters you don't know as the enemy

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13146 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:42 pm to
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Now tell me more about Putin having unlimited oil sales
That's not your first "innocent" error.
It's why you start threads you know the answer to it's simple really
Now stick to having no respect and considering posters you don't know as the enemy


The President described "the deal" as "importing tremendous amounts of oil into our country." Yes, I shouldn't have followed his sloppy language. It's still the same point: by suspending sanctions, Trump is allowing Putin to do what Putin wants to do without getting any concessions.

As for enemies and disrespect, I never said we were enemies. It's just so tedious to have you rag on me personally on every comment I make that it seemed a good time saver to just accept we don't respect each other and leave it at that.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:43 pm to
Lots of words to excuse your past comments.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13146 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:44 pm to
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Lots of words to excuse your past comments


Lol
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:45 pm to
Facts are hard.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13146 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 5:58 pm to
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Facts are hard.


That's why you have so little regard for them.

I will ask again. Have you seen any independent evidence to suggest the President isn't lying about an "energy ceasefire" between Russia and Ukraine?
This post was edited on 10/11/26 at 6:00 pm
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3944 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:05 pm to
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Have you seen any independent evidence to suggest the President isn't lying about an "energy ceasefire" between Russia and Ukraine?

Does Russia striking a Ukrainian power plant right after the announcement not count?
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:06 pm to
Says the guy that starts threads with no links

Asks questions he knows the answer to.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27207 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:29 pm to
You know for a man that said that he could end this conflict within 24 hours. It’s certainly taking a long time.

It’s almost like he was full of shite.
This post was edited on 10/11/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:29 pm to
Almost
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13146 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:31 pm to
Here's what you wrote:

quote:

Your in agreement with yourself that's about it.


You agree with me, though, right? The President made up the "energy ceasefire." Others certainly agreed with me on that.

I'm just pointing out how fact averse you are.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:36 pm to
Meh it's what you want

50-60 threads it's what you seek.

Made up?

Maybe

Premature maybe

Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27207 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:39 pm to
Almost certainly.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:40 pm to
A high probability.

But not a certainty
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27207 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:41 pm to
Well the conflict did not end in 24 hours.

A claim he made publicly 3 times.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 6:42 pm to
Killshot!
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
48228 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Both parties have agreed. Do not break it!” the president said


Or what? When broken, there will be tweets, and cabinet members will release quotes about nothing?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28044 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 10:50 pm to
Trump on Ukraine is his weakest position by far. Big mistake.
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