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re: Trump administration plans to cut 80,000 employees from Veterans Affairs, acc to memo

Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8060 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:25 pm to
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This says it all!

you sound like one of those guys who deployed to Okinawa once thirty years ago and you're getting 100% disability for the rest of your life due to service related achy back or some other ridiculous shite
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8060 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:28 pm to
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So we are just supposed to take everything they call as waste and inefficiency as gospel?

Seems like a good way to cut whatever you want without having people ask questions.

yeah what we better do is bring in some oversight group to analyze everythign DOGE does to make sure it's all legit. of course, we'll need to make sure that oversight group is on the up and up, so we'll hire a watchdog group to keep an eye on the oversight group to make sure everyone is playing fair. of course, we'll need somebody to manage the watchdog group, because they might have their own agenda....guess maybe we should pass some legislation to manage all this by - that will make this all much more efficient.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:32 pm to
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yeah what we better do is bring in some oversight group to analyze everythign DOGE does to make sure it's all legit. of course, we'll need to make sure that oversight group is on the up and up, so we'll hire a watchdog group to keep an eye on the oversight group to make sure everyone is playing fair. of course, we'll need somebody to manage the watchdog group, because they might have their own agenda....guess maybe we should pass some legislation to manage all this by - that will make this all much more efficient.


“So it’s ok if we provide oversite, but it’s dumb if we are subjected to oversite”. Solid argument that’s not hypocritical at all.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:32 pm to
Don’t care, they never did anything for me but bundled my VEEP for college. Got a quarter of college paid two months into the next quarter. Fired them got the balence I put in a paid for it all myself working one quarter and schooling the next.

frick them!
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:34 pm to
I encourage anyone who is pearl clutching over this to go visit any VA hospital or clinic. The dead weight employed at these facilities is astonishingly frightening.

Clear out the excess and non-essential leaches in all areas of government. This is a good thing.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8060 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:35 pm to
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“So it’s ok if we provide oversite, but it’s dumb if we are subjected to oversite”. Solid argument that’s not hypocritical at all.

and that's how you end up with a federal bureaucracy of tens of thousands of people who do next to nothing except soak up a paycheck and make life harder for Americans. i guess it is hypocritical to an extent, but it has to be done.
Posted by OldManHenry
Texas
Member since Jan 2024
373 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:35 pm to
According to DOGE website, nearly a half million federal workers were hired in last 2 years.

That's 500k out of 2.2 million Feds with under 2 years of fed service.

How did the USA survive before the last 2 years of hiring.

It's a Festivus miracle
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
316 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:45 pm to
I could be wrong on this, and please correct me if I am with a neutral source, but it looks more like 140,000 more than Trump’s federal government just before Covid. His federal government was increasing in size also. Size of the government looks fairly consistent over the last 50 years.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 4:47 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39240 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:47 pm to
The VA is one of those agencies that is easy to feather bed with corruption and waste. Anyone who tries to reform or reduce it gets attacked by people on our side, "You're turning your back on our veterans!!!"
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:50 pm to
Good, but i would just like to see it cleaned up, and eventually staffed back correctly. I think part of the issue with the VA has to be records systems and trained personnel.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
19495 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:53 pm to
Do it per capita. Blacks are 13% of the pop.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:53 pm to
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So should the welfare leeches...

That's antisemitic. Leave Israel alone!


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Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 4:57 pm to
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I admire President Trump but this is a major mistake!

I'm surprised we haven't attempted to outsource all of this and treat veterans like retired government employees when it comes to healthcare.

I don't know that this will be a major mistake (all government runs slow inefficient, and wasteful after all). But it does have potential to blow up on his face. This is why DOGE needs to be more public in justifying some of these cuts. Don't just highlight the wasteful crap. I want to know what these 80k employees do, what they contributed, and if they were considered redundant.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21145 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:07 pm to
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That's antisemitic. Leave Israel alone!


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86333 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:10 pm to
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So we are just supposed to take everything they call as waste and inefficiency as gospel?

Seems like a good way to cut whatever you want without having people ask questions.



Your way was to spend whatever they wanted without any oversight and if you ask questions, you are a nazi.


The federal government is supposed to protect our borders, provide postal service and regulate commerce between the states.



Everything else is waste.



Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11092 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:10 pm to
Black peoples are 12% to 13% of population depending on source. They are waaaay over represented at VA. He was indeed correct.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:16 pm to
This will lead to another 250,000 Dem votes in the midterms.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129612 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:18 pm to
Why dont we just give vets good free private insurance with low deductibles and copays?

Would be way cheaper than the VA system
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 5:34 pm to
Just close them all, they suck anyway. Those freeloading vets lol

When are the real military cuts starting? Man up Elon go after the military industrial complex for real. They can’t account for trillions annually
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141575 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:05 pm to
we are falling for this again?

quote:

according to internal memo



well if an "internal memo" from anonymous source says so.................
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