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re: Traitorous Navy brass

Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:10 pm to
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i thought he killed a prisoner? am i mixing him up with someone else?


A prisoner was being treated by a medic, and he walked up and stabbed him with his knife. That is not in dispute. The prosecution was bungled and thrown for a loop when the medic changed his story at the eleventh hour and said that he suffocated the prisoner that Gallagher had just stabbed so technically the medic killed him and Gallagher was acquitted of those charges.

However he has a lengthy track record of misconduct.

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Another accusation was that Gallagher's sniper work during his 2017 deployment became indiscriminate, reckless, and bloodthirsty. He allegedly fired his rifle far more frequently than other snipers;[2] according to testimony, the other snipers in the platoon did not consider him a good sniper, and he took "random shots" into buildings.[1] Other snipers said they witnessed Gallagher taking at least two militarily pointless shots, shooting and killing an unarmed old man in a white robe as well as a young girl walking with other girls. Gallagher allegedly boasted about the large number of people he had killed, claiming he averaged three kills a day over 80 days, including four women.[1] Gallagher also was reportedly known for indiscriminately spraying neighborhoods with rockets and machine gun fire with no known enemy force in the region.[5]


Also threatened to kill his fellow SEAL's for holding him accountable.

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A charge of obstruction of justice was brought against Gallagher for alleged witness intimidation. According to the claim, Gallagher allegedly threatened to kill fellow SEALs if they reported his actions.[2] The Navy cited his text messages as attempting to undermine the investigation, with messages sent to "pass the word on those traitors", meaning cooperating witnesses, and to get them blacklisted within the special warfare community.[5][1] This resulted in him being confined in the brig for a time with heavy restrictions on his ability to communicate, although this confinement was later lessened.[2]


It doesn't bother y'all that other SEAL's and SEAL command don't want this guy in the outfit?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35549 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:14 pm to
They believe the POTUS has authority because muh whatever and lost the popular vote.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21804 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:25 pm to
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It doesn't bother y'all that other SEAL's and SEAL command don't want this guy in the outfit?


Command not so much, but yeah, I stated earlier that I'd seen wildly disparate accounts of his service. Some of his team members think he's a dirtbag, but the medic went out on a limb for him for some reason. Bottom line is that I don't know what the truth is, and neither does anybody else who wasn't there. All we can do is read the various sides to this story.

But, and this is a big but, the Navy screwed this up. If they thought he was guilty of all those other things they should have already sacked him from the teams (I'm 99% sure that doesn't require a judicial verdict) or brought him to trial on those issues. As it stands they look like idiots because they're charging one man for a crime clearly committed by several people. They have little ground to stand on because of that.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27575 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:07 pm to
Not so much in the operator class but in the higher ranks LtCmdr and up
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57256 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:36 pm to
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And even if it’s an order, they seem to have cast doubt on whether it’s lawful, arguing internally that the fate of Gallagher’s trident is an agency regulatory matter, much like determining whether a pilot can qualify for a license.



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Just as the president can’t order the Federal Aviation Administration to certify his son as a pilot, the commander in chief can’t order them to keep Gallagher a SEAL, they’re suggesting behind closed doors.


Wow. Apples to oranges.

Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:37 pm to
If he does not resign, then resign him.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71925 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:39 pm to
Hero.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:51 pm to
The navy secretary is Goldman Sachs deepstate BIG TIME. His service is mere window dressing. I believe you served, Don't carry water for him, man.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71925 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:53 pm to
I don't care about SECNAV. Just another politician.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:53 pm to
Agreed
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:57 pm to
Didn't Gallagher say there a lot of SJWs in the SEAL ranks?

That's honestly one of the biggest disappointments of the Trump Admin for me being that he has not done enough to get these leftist SJWs out of the military that continue to treat the military as a social experiment.

Oh well, still voting Trump in 2020 because he's way better than whatever socialist loon democrats will put up.



Tell us all about it, will ya. I can't stand our president sitting on his arse, with nothing to do for the past three years but fight with the FBI, CIA, Democratic House of Representatives, Never Trumpers and the entire MSM.

You would think he could get around to firing a couple of admirals while he's resting, wouldn't you?

GTFO with this stupidity.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22404 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:04 pm to
Trump needs to purge the military and the entire federal government of leftists.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Trump needs to purge the military and the entire federal government of leftists.




After he is reelected.
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2006 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:37 pm to
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Trump needs to purge the military and the entire federal government of leftists


correct me if i’m wrong sandy but if we fire all the leftists they’ll lock me up and throw away the key
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23727 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 6:55 am to
Consider yourself lucky you don't work for Stalin
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:02 am to
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i haven’t really followed this story.. can someone explain why trump is involved at all? what’s so special about this guy


Good soldier doing his job. A combination of envious colleagues and Obama Era officers who are pro-Islam got upset that he was doing his job a little too well. At his court martial one of the prosecution witnesses admitted to lying. Obama Era Navy brass is upset their strategy to get rid of a patriot failed. Now they want a second bite at the apple to get rid of him.

As far as Trumps involvement... He is the CIC, and the brass at the global force for good do the listening while he does the talking.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:03 am to
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“The Navy follows the lawful orders of the President," said the Chief of Naval Information Rear Adm. Charles Brown in an email to Navy Times. "We will do so in case of an order to stop the administrative review of SOC Gallagher’s professional qualification. We are aware of the President’s tweet and we are awaiting further guidance.”



Exactly. A fricking tweet isn't an order. Trump can issue an order today if he wants it stopped, and that is what he should should do.

We all know he's the fricking Commander in Chief. Commanders in Chief don't give orders with fricking tweets.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49444 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:06 am to
And I'm sure an order will be issued. In the meantime the Navy comes across as insubordinate pricks saying they are going to do their thing until they get said written order, while the Pres has made it clear his feelings on the matter.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2408 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:23 pm to
Gallagher was apparently on Fox and Friends this morning saying he has evidence of corruption and meddling in his case by top Navy officials....and so President TRump has said he will not stop the review board from hearing the case.. hmmmm...maybe he wants their wrongdoings brought to light?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71925 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Navy comes across as insubordinate pricks




For ignoring Trump's weird Twitter ramblings?

Get fricking serious.
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