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Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:00 pm to
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Democrats, How do you feel about “the squad” becoming the next leadership?


Zero of them will serve more than 2 terms in Congress. Either they will lose interest or they will quit once they are no longer Twitter-celebrities

That being said, I hope I’m wrong because the media’s glorification and magnification of the “squad” *cringe* is the best thing to happen to the GOP’s House election chances since Whitewater
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:00 pm to
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Oh you’re one of those who would sling tired tripe and invective and then think you actually said something of import. Gotcha.




actual tired tripe and invective

can't make this shite up
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:01 pm to
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You're just as bad as the people claiming everything is racist if you actually believe this. Some of you are fricking idiots for calling people who dont agree with trump on every turn "lefty loons." Its the same as when I got called a far left whack job because I'm pro choice even though I'm completely on the trump train. Dude seems like a true moderate dem, I dont think what trump said was racist but I can understand how people have come to that conclusion.


Good post. You are right. I am a moderate Dem. But to my Dem friends I am a reactionary neo-con. In the echo chamber of the poli board I’m part of the looney left. What can ya do huh?
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9912 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:01 pm to
People read what they want and hear what they want as long as it supports their feelings. Trump didn’t say anything racist but if read part of comment it supports their hatred for the man that is the best President of our time. They are the real racists, since they don’t agree with what I think is the way to think. See I can use racist the way the left does also.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140468 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:01 pm to
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The "gotcha" questions are getting old.


Who makes you post here?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12934 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:02 pm to
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you do not see the racial bigotry in telling people of color to “go back?” You do not see the problem in using a phrase so steeped in racial hatred, bigotry, and xenophobia? 


There's your problem right here and this is why I support Trump's tweet 100%.

People are sick and tired of leftists shielding people like Omar and AOC because of "people of color" bullshite. They are allowed to say the most vile, hateful, and outrageous things, in Omar's case, flat out hatred of Israel, and they are rarely called out for it.

Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:03 pm to
No one is shielding AOC. People are calling out words that have racial bigotry. It’s not either/or here. For example, I think AOC is as dumb as dog shite. And I think Trump was in error with his verbiage
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140468 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:05 pm to
You think it's their skin he dislikes or their ideology?
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Good post. You are right. I am a moderate Dem. But to my Dem friends I am a reactionary neo-con. In the echo chamber of the poli board I’m part of the looney left. What can ya do huh?




I'm in the same boat you are in and I live in NYC so it's even worse. I rarely talk politics because I'm socially liberal to an extent, I've drawn the line with how crazy some of the shite being pushed nowadays is and fiscally conservative. That makes me a fricking nazi to some of my old liberal friends and I get called a far left whack job on here because I think a women should be able to do what they want with their body in the first 20 weeks of the pregnancy and I dont care when companies market to transgenders and gay people.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:07 pm to
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You know as well as I do who he was speaking about and the context of what he was saying. It’s foolishness to pretend “We have no clue who he was speaking about.”

I didn't say "we have no clue what he means". I'm saying he said if you hate this country so much, you should leave, not be a member of congress.

I would agree with the Nigerian president saying that about white people in his country trying to turn it in a direction opposite of what the Nigerian people want.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:08 pm to
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Zero of them will serve more than 2 terms in Congress. Either they will lose interest or they will quit once they are no longer Twitter-celebrities

They come from whack job districts. They will be re-elected next year
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:09 pm to
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you do not see the racial bigotry in telling people of color to “go back?”


Not in any way, on its own. Their skin color is only relevant if you base your entire perspective on innate biological characteristics instead of language, pragmatism, and reality.

Those four are some of the objectively most ignorant, emotional and least intelligent people in Congress. (although in full disclosure so is about 2/3rds of the House, on both sides of the aisle) I really don’t care what any of their biological characteristics are.

That’s not a racist belief. Their color has nothing to do with my opinion. Their sheer dumbassery dictates that.


The words “go back” are not racist. Brown and black people do not have a monopoly on being from other nations. There are more white descendants of immigrants in this country than any other group, obviously. Nothing about “go back where you came from” is racist


Stupid? Yes. Shortsighted? Absolutely. But not inherently racist. It just is not.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12934 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:10 pm to
When the democrats passed their resolution to condemn anti-semitism they refused to even mention Omar by name, even though she was the impetus for the resolution.

To say that democrats, liberals, and the media don't defend these people is dishonest and you know it.

I'm trying to tell you that this is what the average Joe is sick of. We are tired of a certain group, or groups, always getting away with saying the most vile and hateful things all because of skin color. We (white males) are sick and tired of POC being allowed to say whatever the hell they want about us, our values and political beliefs, and our country, and if we so much as respond we're the "racists".

BTW, I used to be what was considered a moderate democrat, but shite like this is why I refuse to vote democrat now.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:12 pm to
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They come from whack job districts. They will be re-elected next year


Oh I didn’t mean that they would be defeated at the ballot box. Because they won’t.

I mean the that the only reason these idiots ran for office was so they could get a blue check. They care far more about Twitter and media reaction than they do policy. And without actually being worth a damn at their jobs they will not move up in important committees under current D leadership.

Once they are no longer the new thing, the media will lose interest and I think they will quit/not run anymore.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:19 pm to
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I mean the that the only reason these idiots ran for office was so they could get a blue check. They care far more about Twitter and media reaction than they do policy. And without actually being worth a damn at their jobs they will not move up in important committees under current D leadership.

Once they are no longer the new thing, the media will lose interest and I think they will quit/not run anymore.

They didn't do it for the blue check. They did it because they're power hungry narcissists. They're all walking gaffe machines, not very bright, and have an attitude that goes beyond arrogant. Never mind the fact that two of them support radical Islamic groups.

As far as the media losing interest - the only way the media puts the lid on them is if Trump loses 2020. That's the only way they'll become irrelevant.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32890 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:31 pm to
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But, you do not see the racial bigotry in telling people of color to “go back?” You do not see the problem in using a phrase so steeped in racial hatred, bigotry, and xenophobia?

Surely you see, but won't admit, Trump’s comments were a shiny hook aimed at the Squad for them to admit their extremist, socialist leanings...because your Dem leadership isn’t doing much to control these dangerous shitheads. Someone had to fight fire with fire.

And Trump’s tactic worked
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:01 pm to
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You think it's their skin he dislikes or their ideology?


Ideology. I do not think Trump is a racist. I just do not like the verbiage he used.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:01 pm to
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Muleriderhog


Preach it! We are in the same boat.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:03 pm to
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I would agree with the Nigerian president saying that about white people in his country trying to turn it in a direction opposite of what the Nigerian people want.


That’s a fair point.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:04 pm to
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To say that democrats, liberals, and the media don't defend these people is dishonest and you know it.


Not at all. Remember Dems we’re condemning them last week.
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