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Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Please tell me where in the federal law it requires local municipal police forces to enforce federal law.
Section 1373
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(a) In general. Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
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(b) Additional authority of government entitiesNotwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:03 pm to mmcgrath
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You just said it was a ploy for negotiations.
how can you negotiate without a real threat behind you?
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A remittance tax wouldn't disincentive illegal immigration at all.
if they couldn't send money back home, many wouldn't come here. they come here to send money back
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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That's what these people are failing to realize. Most illegal aliens are not savvy enough to skirt the system.
yeah it's pretty complicated
and let me add, i wasn't doing this to do something illegal. i had 2 reasons to look into this stuff
1. i have thought about doing an immersion-writing project related to "living like a poor person" and this is one growing industry of the unbanked. i've also looked into getting payday loans and other avenues for the poor/unbanked
2. i want to have a separate, portable, and accessible form of liquidity in case shite hits the fan. kind of like the financial aspect of a "bugout" bag. mainly i was trying to argue with myself that there was a better option than BTC, which there isn't really
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:but it is only a bluff
how can you negotiate without a real threat behind you?
quote:and a remittance tax would not prevent anyone from sending money to Mexico. They would find other means, hold onto the money for a while in hopes of the policy changing soon, or, in some cases, pay the tax.
if they couldn't send money back home, many wouldn't come here. they come here to send money back
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:24 pm to mmcgrath
At the very least, a remittance tax is gonna encourage Mexicans to send less money to Mexico. Like you said, maybe they will hold onto it for a while or spend more of it in the U.S. Even under ideal conditions of perfect enforcement and no loopholes, we aren't going to collect on the current volume of remittances.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:26 pm to cahoots
quote:Exactly.
At the very least, a remittance tax is gonna encourage illegals to send less money to Mexico. Like you said, maybe they will hold onto it for a while or spend more of it in the U.S. Even under ideal conditions of perfect enforcement and no loopholes, we aren't going to collect on the current volume of remittances.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:16 pm to mmcgrath
No shite. Who is even suggesting that? Regardless, this will hurt Mexico. It will generate significant revenue for the U.S., if implemented. How much? Who knows, but to dismiss it as something irrelevant is naive.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 4:27 pm to mmcgrath
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but it is only a bluff
man i dunno. i thought the wall was pure fantasy but apparently they're really going to try
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They would find other means
doubtful
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hold onto the money for a while in hopes of the policy changing soon
possibly, but i doubt they hold it for 4-8 years
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or, in some cases, pay the tax
some would. it wouldn't stop the behavior 100%
if 10% of remittances stop, mexico is fricked. i'd estimate the rate will be much higher than that
Posted on 1/26/17 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Remittances are 2.3% of Mexico's GDP.
if 10% of remittances stop, mexico is fricked
Posted on 1/26/17 at 4:28 pm to cahoots
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Even under ideal conditions of perfect enforcement and no loopholes, we aren't going to collect on the current volume of remittances.
you only need to collect on so much to frick mexico
and it doesn't take a ton of action to have a dramatic decrease overall. yeah that fricks Trump if he really thinks he's building the wall with this money, but it fricks Mexico doubly (fewer people sending money back and fewer people coming here to work if they can't send money back)
Posted on 1/26/17 at 4:32 pm to cahoots
Go ahead and try to cross the border with a significant amount of cash. Let us know how that works out for you.
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