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Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Bunch of hardasses in here basically saving I had to shave so you need to also.

yes. i also have to cut my hair every week and keep my uniform looking nice. i also have to stay fit. this is how the military works.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17085 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Put some Nair on that face Marine.


Under the prior administration military members could get gender reassignment surgery on the tax payer dime. If we could afford that we can tell them we will laser off the hair or they can separate from the service.



I dont really care about the tatoos or beards (as long as they know their mask wont seal). I would prefer to rid the ranks of the fatties.
Posted by PorkBelly
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2021
597 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:24 pm to
Well-groomed beards should be allowed.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
3378 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:25 pm to
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All that hair will mess up the seal.

That's why Hitler had that stumpy short mustache. He was a message runner in WWI. He was gassed and badly injured in the war. He had one of those long whiskers mustache popular at the time. While recovering in the hospital he trimmed what was necessary so that he could get a good seal of his gas mask.
And know you know the rest of the story.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20615 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Do tattoos make it extremely difficult to get a seal on a gas or oxygen mask? Can tattoos be a hygiene problem?


That’s been debunked.

Can’t have a 6in beard, but a slight beard doesn’t mess with the seal.
Posted by DBird
Member since Nov 2023
894 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:41 pm to
Yeah, bearded men in the Army is not a problem. They just need to amend 670-1 to regulate beards, not the 1/4" bullshite. If they allowed soldiers to groom it, the beards of every soldier with a medical or religious exemption wouldn't look all ate up.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13030 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:58 pm to
Not really sure facial hair is a slippery slope…
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5353 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:08 pm to
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That’s been debunked.

Can’t have a 6in beard, but a slight beard doesn’t mess with the seal.

You do grasp that the a decent military is not in the business of measuring beards to determine if they will be or won't be a problem.

A good rule should be one where they don't have to check everyone's beard to make sure soldier A's beard is a problem while soldier B's is not. It's not some HOA where some douchebag has time to go around with a ruler measuring everyone's lawn to make sure it falls within the rules.

And I take it you don't know many US commercial airline pilots. Pretty much every one in the US has either a no beard or minimal beard policy. They don't really think it has been "debunked" enough. They don't like playing the game of measuring individual beards to make sure they are within safe parameters or taking the chance of their pilot passing out in an emergency situation.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38296 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:12 pm to
Old man rant incoming:

Beards have been an issue for years, but, living in a military town, and seeing soldiers daily, the two things I hate to see is how fat soldiers are on average now, and the new rule allowing ponytails for females, which just looks sloppy as shite. It seems like we constantly find ways to make standards more relaxed for females, but still force the males to have the same dumbass looking haircuts they've had since the 50's.

I had the misfortune of seeing all the AIT students "marching" (well, casually walking, since no one was in step) in the Veterans Day parade. It was embarrassing. Fatties, ponytails, utility uniforms (don't know what bdu's/acu's are called today) that looked like they'd been wadded up in a laundry bag the night before.

I marched in that same parade 25 years ago, in class a's, and it was preceded by a week of uniform inspections and a fresh haircut was mandatory, and most of us had generally mastered synchronized walking. Oh, and fatties pulled road guard or kp.

Ok, old man rant off.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38296 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Yeah the “Norse pagans” are the biggest dipshits. “I’m a pagan so I can have a religious exemption” derp
I'm not religious, but the first Sunday in basic training, after finding out that anyone who didn't attend a service had to GI the barracks all morning, I was trying to decide on which service to go to, and decided on hanging out with the 'pagans' because I figured it would be the most chill. I fell in with the 2 weirdos claiming to be pagans, and after the other groups marched off to various services, my drill sgt walked us to the treeline and made the three of us hug a tree for two hours. I just GI'd the barracks every Sunday after that.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39798 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:23 pm to
Fat people are indeed terrible.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:25 pm to
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You do grasp that the a decent military is not in the business of measuring beards to determine if they will be or won't be a problem.



Nah. They just do that with haircuts.

Or they did, I guess. Today, we care about beards, but not haircuts I guess.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8933 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:32 pm to
I didn’t like people not shaving but a lot of the black dudes got really bad bumps on their faces.
Posted by Florida_Man1981
Member since Jan 2024
541 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:40 pm to
Facts. Go to any support unit and 75% of the formation has beards and look dumpy as frick.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8751 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:40 pm to
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You gotta look good to die for the Jews

here's your attention
Posted by Florida_Man1981
Member since Jan 2024
541 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:42 pm to
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it said beards are an area of focus, but i'm telling you, that that's what this memo is. they are making the policy regarding medical waivers extremely strict, which will result in most of these beards just going away.


Yep. They already sent instructions down not to show any pictures on social media of fat or bearded soldiers.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38296 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Fat people are indeed terrible.


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I didn’t like people not shaving but a lot of the black dudes got really bad bumps on their faces.
I've seen a few guys that were absolutely justified having a shaving profile. It looked painful and was extremely unsightly.

To cosign someone earlier, I think a big part of the problem is the 1/4 inch rule. That just makes it look like you woke up hungover and late after a four-day and ran to formation without shaving. Terrible. Guys with legit issues shaving should be allowed a short (under an inch) well-trimmed beard.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38296 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:48 pm to
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You do grasp that the a decent military is not in the business of measuring beards to determine if they will be or won't be a problem.
Oh please. My 1SG was in the business of carrying a ruler in his pocket to make sure my sideburns didn't extend beyond "the lowest part of the exterior ear opening" (if I'm remembering 670-1 correctly). I'm sure he'd have been able to move the ruler down a few inches.
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
3338 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:50 pm to
What's wrong with bearded troops? Some people might not like Pete's slicked back spic hair look, or the shitty irish tattoos on his forearm. Let them grow beards. Let them be men. Let them fight.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:52 pm to


It wasn't uncommon on Lejeune on Mondays to see some bored GySgt or 1stSgt outside the seven day store or French Creek PX who was there solely to give Marines shite about their haircuts.
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