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re: Tommy Robinson arrested again

Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:25 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:25 am to
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Do you think this guy should go to jail for showing a movie?

No.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:25 am to
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When was the last thread you saw with a poster promoting eliminating all private property?


This is your metric for determining a leftist?

How about you try this one on for size, ask those fricksticks to denounce the assassination attempt on DJT.

Most of those “center-left” posters will disappear like a fart in the wind.

In short, by refusing to denounce it, they are tacitly supporting the murder of the political opposition.

It is a definitive fulcrum point for determining who supports leftist extremism.

The fact that you can’t see that for what it is would be your issue.

Again, I defer to you on legal matters. Geo-politics, nope.

I trust my knowledge concerning the subject far more than yours.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475995 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:26 am to
Yeah. My point still stands.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:28 am to
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This is your metric for determining a leftist?

An actual left-leftist? Yes.

When I say there isn't any real leftism, it's talking about REAL leftism. Not center-left moderate bullshite.

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How about you try this one on for size, ask those fricksticks to denounce the assassination attempt on DJT.

Most of those “center-left” posters will disappear like a fart in the wind.

Who have you asked?

Pretty sure I saw VOR denounce it, but that was a chaotic time.

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I trust my knowledge concerning the subject far more than yours.

Considering your ignorance on the topic that you've shown ITT, yikes.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:41 am to
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Considering your ignorance on the topic that you've shown ITT, yikes.


I have illustrated that you lied.

Plus, you are defending VOR.

He is a goose-stepping communazi.

Your ignorance has been on full display for all to see.

You have been accused (falsely) of defending leftist narratives. I have stated unequivocally that isn’t true.

However, you ARE defending pieces of human excrement by defending VOR and his ilk.

You do you though.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475995 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:05 am to
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I have illustrated that you lied.

No you didn't

When called to task, you threw a hissy fit because you're either ignorant to actual Marxism or your original point was so intellectually dishonest you were checkmated.

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Plus, you are defending VOR.


Me saying he's center-left is not defending him, and you phrasing it in this way shows the aforementioned lack of intellectual honesty.

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However, you ARE defending pieces of human excrement by defending VOR and his ilk.

Placing him properly on the left-right spectrum is in no way a defense of anything, just as you putting Stalin on the correct part of the same spectrum would in no way be a defense of Stalin.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:09 am to
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How about you try this one on for size, ask those fricksticks to denounce the assassination attempt on DJT. Most of those “center-left” posters will disappear like a fart in the wind.


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Who have you asked? Pretty sure I saw VOR denounce it


Link?

Fwiw, Texdiddler eventually addressed it, but only because she didn’t want Trump to become a martyr.
She agreed with the act otherwise.

Here are just a handful of the SFP “almost centrists” that refused to fully denounce. There are more, I’m just not going back though all of my posts.

DawgSc

exiledhogfan

Tardzana

Texdiddler

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:12 am to
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Placing him properly


VOR is far left.

You didn’t “properly” place him on that spectrum.

YOU are being intellectually dishonest.

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When called to task, you threw a hissy fit because you're either ignorant to actual Marxism or your original point was so intellectually dishonest you were checkmated.


This didn’t happen.

I do find your revisionist history to be fascinating though.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62886 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:12 am to
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Your VORS, tarzanas, etc. are center-Left moderate types


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475995 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:12 am to
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Here are just a handful of the SFP “almost centrists” that refused to fully denounce.

OK now what is their stance on actual policies, so we can put them on the left-right spectrum?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:14 am to
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When was the last thread you saw with a poster promoting eliminating all private property?


This is your metric for determining a leftist?


I'm telling you, something has happened to this clown over the past year. His points arent even reasonable.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:15 am to
So supporting the assassination of the political opposition doesn’t meet your criteria huh?

I can’t imagine being such a disingenuous person so as to label posters like them as

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center-Left moderate types
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31555 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:15 am to
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The film, Silenced, repeated false claims he made about a Syrian refugee that led to him losing a libel case in 2021


I bet you think this is an objective thought...
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475995 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:19 am to
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So supporting the assassination of the political opposition doesn’t meet your criteria huh?


I've taken dozens of political compass quizzes in my life and no, that never came up. If you find one, let me know.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475995 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:20 am to
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I bet you think this is an objective thought...

I don't know much about Tommy Robinson, but did he win the libel case in 2021? You tell me.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:20 am to
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I'm telling you, something has happened to this clown over the past year. His points arent even reasonable.


I defend SFP pretty regularly.

However, I think old boy is on the spectrum and simply HAS TO respond to anyone that criticizes him.

I’m beginning to think that “downvotes” either trigger him, or (weirdly) validate him.

As such, he has pretty much become oppositionally defiant.

The sad thing is, before he went all Asperger’s, he actually made quite a bit of sense.

Now, he latched onto some obscure point to be argumentative.

Like I sad, it’s pretty damned sad.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44120 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:22 am to
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The sad thing is, before he went all Asperger’s, he actually made quite a bit of sense. Now, he latched onto some obscure point to be argumentative.


The below is a prime example:

Jtl said:
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So supporting the assassination of the political opposition doesn’t meet your criteria huh?


SFP replied:
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I've taken dozens of political compass quizzes in my life and no, that never came up. If you find one, let me know.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:22 am to
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The sad thing is, before he went all Asperger’s, he actually made quite a bit of sense.


The "common sense" most people understand is off limits to him.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475995 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:23 am to
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I’m beginning to think that “downvotes” either trigger him, or (weirdly) validate him.

You could not be more wrong

If they did, then I would have changed the stances I've had for almost 20 years on here to ride the wave of shedding ideology for new trends.

I don't even look at them.

Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29234 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:24 am to
If posters just ignored him he wouldn’t have anything to reply to. Its like some can’t resist him. Infatuated with replying. I just laugh and ignore. Those replying are helping give him a soap box to preach his agenda.
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