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re: Today's issue of personal responsibility: student loans

Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:29 am to
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29030 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:29 am to
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Co-signing a student loan is a very small favor to ask.



yeah .. I guess that is why he is on the hook for $200K ... because it was a small favor.


$200,000.00 + .... no big deal ... small favor.



Now, in addition to his daughter having died ... he is financially ruined for not practicing better business.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:30 am to
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Of course, I will help when asked and when I can.



Co-signing a student loan is a very small favor to ask.


My parents co-signed a student loan for me, and it has actually helped their credit.

It doesn't really apply to the OP, but if you raise responsible children who know to pay their bills on time then you can feel pretty secure about cosigning a loan with them. Of course you also have to know when to put your foot down and say that there's no way that a $100k nursing degree is worth borrowing money for.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:32 am
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:31 am to
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The fact she CHOSE to pay 100k for nursing school is retarded.


Oh, I agree. My comments in this thread are not intended for the specific situation in the OP.

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Now it's a relatively small risk, but they got caught. No sympathy.


I have sympathy. Not only did the lose their daughter prematurely, they got caught with a shite load of debt they didn't ever anticipate. To not have sympathy for any parent after the death of their child suggests you may be a sociopath.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29030 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:32 am to
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holy shite, that type of message is just scary no matter what your ideology is.

"you're 'mindfully siding' (aka having your own opinion) and that doesn't align with mine, that's APPALLING for me to have to see on this board"



It's the same sort of thing you see from libs when it comes to the gay/LBMSQYEITE(*@##& issues/threads.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:35 am to
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I have sympathy. Not only did the lose their daughter prematurely, they got caught with a shite load of debt they didn't ever anticipate. To not have sympathy for any parent after the death of their child suggests you may be a sociopath.


It's sad they lost their child....the debt thing was a risk they knowingly took on. Look, in statistics we never say a thing has either a probability of 1 or 0, you need to understand that no matter how small, there is still a chance you get caught by that risk.

they did. they knowingly accepted they could be caught, so I have zero sympathy for them on the debt.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:36 am to
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POSTER 2:You're mindfully siding with the banks on this - very appalling to see this type of message on a democratic party message board.


That is the problem with Democrats in this country versus any other party. They will destroy anyone who believes anything other than what they believe. They are the most intolerant group.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:38 am to
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but to swear off all co-signing makes you a shitty parent.



Or...a parent that actually demonstrates good judgement and financially reasonable actions.


Perhaps, that would have been an excellent lesson. One that, had she lived, may have been a great service to her. Good parenting
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29030 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:40 am to
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they did. they knowingly accepted they could be caught, so I have zero sympathy for them on the debt.


I agree.


Personally, if I knew them and knew they were good people ... I'd certainly consider helping them pay off the debt via donation.

But, the debt is real, and they own it now.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:41 am to
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holy shite, that type of message is just scary no matter what your ideology is.


The democrats are scary at this point. They will destroy anyone who believes anything other than what they believe. They will do it with the NSA, IRS, Regulations, Lies, ....by any means necessary.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:42 am to
I also wondered about personal responsibility when reading that article, but felt like a dick.

My other thought was, did her kids have a dad? Or three different dads? I read it and thought "that girl was out of control while living".

But I am probably a bastard.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:44 am to
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Or...a parent that actually demonstrates good judgement and financially reasonable actions.



What do you consider financially reasonable? Would co-signing a loan of, let's say 25K, for your son to get a degree in petroleum engineering seem like a reasonable investment in his future?

If you raised your child well, they will understand the risks associated with their debt and the fact that they are on the hook for some of their tuition will likely make them take their studies more seriously than you paying all of it.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29030 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:45 am to
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My other thought was, did her kids have a dad? Or three different dads?


quote:

But I am probably a bastard.




Well ... do you have a dad?


Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:45 am to
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Then don't sign if you can't afford it.

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And then they won't be able to attend school. Which he says is selfish

Then I'm a selfish prick for not buying my son a Lamborghini.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:47 am to
This guy was a pastor so you gotta figure that he was pretty low on the intelligence scale.

100K for a nursing degree? It is a 3 yr program. My niece just did it by going to a community college and her total loan amount is ~ 10k. She now makes about 70k with overtime.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:48 am to
Yes, and he would never have co-signed for $10,000 in student loans, let alone $100,000.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:48 am to
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This guy was a pastor so you gotta figure that he was pretty low on the intelligence scale.


You sir are an idiot
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40113 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:52 am to
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Student loans are the entire reason tuition prices have skyrocketed


exactly, LSU doesn't need a fricking lazy river in the shape of LSU around the rec center and Mizzou doesn't need a waterfall.

quote:

Federal government involvement in a sector means higher prices, we see it everywhere, especially healthcare. Higher education is now jumping on the gravy train.


They have been on that gravy train.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:54 am to
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This guy was a pastor so you gotta figure that he was pretty low on the intelligence scale. You sir are an idiot


How much math, science or engineering do you need to be a pastor? Do you even need a high school diploma? In terms of making money, pastor is a worse field than getting a 4 yr. liberal arts degree.

Think about it, dumbfrick!
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29030 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:58 am to
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In terms of making money, pastor is a worse field than getting a 4 yr. liberal arts degree. Think about it, dumbfrick!




1) Pretty sure most pastors aren't in it for the money.

2) Exceptions to every rule: "You, sir, are the dumbfrick... I'm ROLLIN' ... bwahahahahahaa." Sincerely, "Reverends" Sharpton, Jackson, Wright
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33873 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 11:01 am to
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