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re: To those here constantly voicing "socialism" and "communism" as the enemy...

Posted on 9/27/21 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 2:51 pm to



wow
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 2:52 pm to
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What is the Nazi economic policy?


Hitler was a huge fan of socialism, any one that says any different doesnt know shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Yeah, big government. SOCIALISM! What are you missing here.


Big government doesnt' always equal socialism.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295901 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Hitler was a huge fan of socialism, any one that says any different doesnt know shite.


Yet most industry was still privately owned.

Basically the USA operated under the same system in WWII. A centrally planned private economy.

This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 2:58 pm to
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WRONG! Fascism is left wing because it is BIG GOVERNMENT.


I think it’s a line in the Leopard, but he writes, that everything must change, if it’s going to stay the same.

The enlightenment upended the power balance in the west. Traditionally power created wealth. Now wealth generated power. And a warrior aristocracy was replaced by a merchant oligarchy, which is hostile to religion, honor, and traditional life.

So how do you preserve traditional values, when the institutions that support them are collapsing? When the church is dying, and the aristocracy is fading away? State power.

The problem with this, is that power will likely corrupt this system. And it will decay. Franco’s system didn’t survive his death, and Chile voted for socialism recently.

Democracy is not an answer though. It’s the problem. Elected governments will always decay into oligarchy.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47374 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:02 pm to
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I've never met a Nazi

I've met thousands of communists and socialists.

Nazism is simply a modern bogeyman to scare pussies. I don't know a single person who professes that kind of belief.



Do you know who the Nazis fought side by side with in WWII?

Do you know what the merger of govt and big corporations is?

Do you know how Standard Oil created it's monopoly?

Do you know which banks funded both sides of every 20th century war?

Do you know what Operation Paperclip was? When you find out, will you laugh and call it a conspiracy theory?





So I think you're the third guy on here today who has literally denied the existence of current day Nazis.

Wow


Are Soros and Zuckerberg and Gates "socialists"?

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47374 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:06 pm to
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One of us understands what is being discussed. You're a potato.

What is the Nazi ideology pertaining to economics?



you mean the National Socialist German Worker's Party?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47374 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:08 pm to
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, it wasn't pure socialism, but it was centrally planned




Posted by BillRose
Texas
Member since Jun 2021
989 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:11 pm to
It is unfortunate that you mental midgets think social programs paid for with capitalist dollars are socialism.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47374 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Funny thing is the people fighting for socialism come from families that sent them all to college.

They are the bourgeoisie.



excellent point

and why do you think that is?


Because the upper elite rich want to stifle the middle class with paying for the poor. Meanwhile the upper class elites funnel money in precious metals, globalist bank accounts, and etc, and they don't pay their fair share for the poor


Do they care about the poor? Hell no, they use the poor as pawns to rob the middle class of tax revenue


All the while, the cowards they are, they inch towards a utopian society in which they hope they are the only ones left alive
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Bayou Harvard
Bayou self
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:27 pm to
Levin has a very compelling book American Marxism you should read it one day.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47374 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:29 pm to
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Levin has a very compelling book American Marxism you should read it one day.



I'll bet he does

I've read lots of books

I don't intend to read one from a warmongering propagandist
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42573 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Fascism was a right wing reaction to Communism. It was an attempt to preserve traditional life, and traditional values.

The reason why the Democrats scream and call everyone a Fascist, is because Fascism was the only force that managed to slow down communism in the 20th century. Fascists held back Communists in Spain, Italy, and Germany for example.


Wrong! KKK was the police arm of the Democratic Party. Which are NAZI Aryan brotherhood bigots. Don’t change history
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9932 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:31 pm to
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They are Nazis. Bonafide.


No

Fascism was a right wing reaction to Communism. It was an attempt to preserve traditional life, and traditional values.

The reason why the Democrats scream and call everyone a Fascist, is because Fascism was the only force that managed to slow down communism in the 20th century. Fascists held back Communists in Spain, Italy, and Germany for example.

That’s why it bothers them. It’s their nightmare.

Fascism was effective, because it provided a coherent intellectual response to Communism that could bind the Church, the aristocracy, and common people together.




Remember that in the views of philosophers such as Herbert Marcuse, Fascism is but a functioning Capitalist society. They supported Antifa (really just communists) where they believed the ends justifies the means in the spirit of preventing Fascism.

Marx believed that capitalism would eventually fail, which would lead to Socialism, which would lead to Communism , or the end of time.

Marcuse could see that Communism would not overtake a functioning capitalist society due to the building of the middle class. That the ability of the poor to enter the middle class via a job and buying possessions would not give them the angst to rise up and become the proletariat that Marx envisioned. Things like workers protection acts, safe work environments, and other such legal precedents prevented workers from being abused by corporate/ individual greed.

Marcuse instead saw the race riots of the 60's in America and saw that a new proletariat of the "ghetto" and the unemployed would be crucial to ushering in Communism via Critical Theory and indoctrination of these theories at the Universities.

All that is WOKE today is simply Neo Marxism from Marcuse through his works and helped by his students such as political activist Angela Davis.

This is why they push critical race theory for middle and high schools. Because young children can be molded so much easier before going to "university". Especially where parents now are ever more aware of the perversion of Communism being taught to students and professors hell bent on deterring free thought. Parents may opt to steer their children from these Universities, so if the Neo Marxists can infect the children with CRT, they are one step closer to building their proletariat and at worst, sympathizers to their cause.

The one thing these philosophizers never take into account is the evil of men in absolute power.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
I haven’t read Herbert Marcuse, but I agree with you.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42329 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:36 pm to
It's real simple.

Posted by Bayou Harvard
Bayou self
Member since Sep 2019
54 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:40 pm to
Propaganda wow!!! What is your beef with Levin ? I have listen for years pretty on point.
Yes he can get a little loud at times but his info is good he believe in liberty and
Freedom does not sound like propaganda to me? And yes I Agree there is NWO
At work to destroy are country etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295901 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:42 pm to
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Yep, National SOCIALISM. it's in the name.


Global communism is the goal.

Anyone not understanding this is waaaay behind.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47374 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Remember that in the views of philosophers such as Herbert Marcuse, Fascism is but a functioning Capitalist society. They supported Antifa (really just communists) where they believed the ends justifies the means in the spirit of preventing Fascism.

Marx believed that capitalism would eventually fail, which would lead to Socialism, which would lead to Communism , or the end of time.

Marcuse could see that Communism would not overtake a functioning capitalist society due to the building of the middle class. That the ability of the poor to enter the middle class via a job and buying possessions would not give them the angst to rise up and become the proletariat that Marx envisioned. Things like workers protection acts, safe work environments, and other such legal precedents prevented workers from being abused by corporate/ individual greed.

Marcuse instead saw the race riots of the 60's in America and saw that a new proletariat of the "ghetto" and the unemployed would be crucial to ushering in Communism via Critical Theory and indoctrination of these theories at the Universities.

All that is WOKE today is simply Neo Marxism from Marcuse through his works and helped by his students such as political activist Angela Davis.

This is why they push critical race theory for middle and high schools. Because young children can be molded so much easier before going to "university". Especially where parents now are ever more aware of the perversion of Communism being taught to students and professors hell bent on deterring free thought. Parents may opt to steer their children from these Universities, so if the Neo Marxists can infect the children with CRT, they are one step closer to building their proletariat and at worst, sympathizers to their cause.

The one thing these philosophizers never take into account is the evil of men in absolute power.



Yes

And they're all working for Nazis


You've explained the junior varsity well


The intent of this thread is to pull some posters in this forum away from focusing on the junior varsity


the North Vietnamese won Nam, and Laos and Cambodia, no one writes much about who "won" between the Sandinistas and the Contras, the "Taliban fought off the Soviets" in Afghanistan....and what?

who profited from it all? Elitists Nazis in Europe and America who want you and me dead
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295901 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:43 pm to
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So I think you're the third guy on here today who has literally denied the existence of current day Nazis.



You couldn't define nazism if you were spotted 7/8ths of the definition
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 3:44 pm
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