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re: To the citizens of Taiwan.....RUN!!!

Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:59 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:59 am to
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If China doesn't have the ability to lose men in combat and economically carry on who does?


Are you confusing me with SFP? He said China would collapse.

I stated that he was foolish and out of his depth.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:02 am to
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How does the worlds biggest active duty army become beholding to working class jobs? They have over a million reservist who work and can fight. Over a million police who can do either if necessary.

Invading Taiwan is going to cause mass casualties.

The US/West attacking China is going to cause mass casualties.

How many die is up to China's stubbornness, but it could be in the millions

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If China doesn't have the ability to lose men in combat and economically carry on who does?

Countries with higher per capita output.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42430 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:02 am to
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How has China prepared?


The answer isn’t a simple one. It is also rather lengthy. Go scope out the thread on Ghost cities. I explained it in detail there.

Finding it, and reading it, should keep your spectrum based attributes engaged for awhile.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38082 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:03 am to
This is fearmongering unless China is that dumb to invade. Their food and energy trade routes rely on the US to secure them.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42430 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:03 am to
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The US/West attacking China


So we are going to attack China now? Haha, again, you can’t be taken seriously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:04 am to
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So we are going to attack China now?

If they invade Taiwan?

Uh...yeah. That's been the assumption for the non-conspiracy theorists this entire thread.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74517 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:08 am to
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The J20 is comparable to the near-20 year old F22


This just flat out wrong. Wiggle, bloviate or whatever but this doesn't hold water J20 has a much larger RCS and thats game no.1

JMO

US Jet Pilot on matchup
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42430 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:10 am to
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If China doesn't have the ability to lose men in combat and economically carry on who does?


quote:

Countries with higher per capita output.


In Estonia, the working population in the dumbshit business makes 2.5 units of whattchamacallems per person, times 1000 people.

Whereas in China they only make 2 units per person times 100,000 people.

According to SFP, Estonia will make up the difference overnight if China shuts down.

Speaking of industry, you are quite a tool sometimes.

Comedy
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42430 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:11 am to
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this doesn't hold water


The J-20 has a very similar kill rate to the F-35 in war games combat missions.

The F-35 may be superior, but the J-20 is no joke.

SFP is a fool.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42430 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:13 am to
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If they invade Taiwan?


So, like assuming we would go to war with Russia if they invaded Ukraine?

Again, you are a fool.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74517 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:14 am to
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Invading Taiwan is going to cause mass casualties.

Don't think so. Taiwan either defeats China offshore or loses the war. Once China gains a airport a sea port its game over and Taiwan knows it. China promises a "independent Taiwan" upon a peace treaty then of course years later all that changes slowly over time.


The US/West attacking China is going to cause mass casualties.


Never happen.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74517 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:15 am to
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this doesn't hold water


The J-20 has a very similar kill rate to the F-35 in war games combat missions.


Was comparing to F-22.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:17 am to
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Never happen.


I don't think China is going to invade Taiwan, FWIW.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42430 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:19 am to
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Was comparing to F-22.


Gotcha. My apologies.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74517 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:20 am to


I don't either. It will be a soft coup called "saving our democracy". Taiwan will get a Chinese asset as President one day and not even know it.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2019
13969 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:24 am to
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To the citizens of Taiwan.....RUN!!!


And where do you suggest they run to?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:24 am to
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US Jet Pilot on matchup


Did you watch the video?

"So as that Chinese fighter pilot, you know your doctrine is not to get into a dogfight with the F-22"

Go to 11:28 of that video.

"So if you got into a turning fight with an F-22 as J-20, I don't believe it's going to fare very well for you"

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74517 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:28 am to
He's saying your toast (J-20) in a turning fight with a F-22. The J-20 will be seen before the F-22 at long range. In close range the J-20 loses as well. What did you watch

If doubt the close range superiority why then does the J-20 have no close range cannons? Did you really watch and listen
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13450 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:30 am to
Not my Hemisphere. Not my problem.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:31 am to
Oh I misunderstood. They were arguing J20 was a threat to the F35.

My comment that it's comparable to the F22 was that it's at the level of a near-20 year old US fighter, and nowhere near the F35.

I took your comment as saying the J20 would beat the F22. I misunderstood.

*ETA: my comment comparing it to the F22 was not a compliment.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 11:32 am
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