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re: To all the pro-choice people

Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:13 pm to
I think it's immoral to have an abortion for any reason other than to save the life of the mother. It's a moral argument since I view all other reasons for abortion as immoral.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110002 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:15 pm to
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It's amazing that defending the rights of the unborn and wanting to save those lives is considered morally evil by some. Think what you want about me but I think it's evil to kill millions of pre born children.


Well to me, to say that this child deserves a chance at life means that God planned for her to be raped. That makes God evil. If think this is just to carry the baby to turn regardless of the feelings of the mother, then that in turn makes you evil.

We may have our differences here on the Poliboard, but what you're saying is wholly evil and heartless. Shame on you.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41867 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:17 pm to
Think what you want about me personally (though you don't even know me), but I'm making an argument and you aren't really refuting what I'm saying, just calling me names because you don't like what I'm saying.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:20 pm to
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I think it's immoral to have an abortion for any reason other than to save the life of the mother. It's a moral argument since I view all other reasons for abortion as immoral.


But if you look at it from, I'm assuming that you're looking at it from, a Christian standpoint... shouldn't you be against it even if the mothers life is at stake? Because of the will of god and all?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:21 pm to
I don't really care what you think, believe, or view.

Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:21 pm to
Who the frick is trivializing rape? I've agreed that rape victims should be given the chance to abort. The fact that your argument for abortion is because there are women that are raped and impregnated is fricking asinine. You are justifying evil with evil.

A 23 year old girl that has casual sex and no care for protection doesn't get to have an abortion because she gets pregnant. That's an adult that knows what she is doing. That's fricking evil.

A 14 year old girl that gets gang raped and impregnated does get that opportunity. The frick is so hard to understand you ignorant cuck.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:23 pm to
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Who the frick is trivializing rape?


The dude he's responding to.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41867 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:23 pm to
I don't think he's delusional. I think he is basing his view on an emotional experience which I believe to not be very helpful to a discussion of the moral implications of abortion in general.

The argument is essentially that you are free to take a life if allowing life to persist is too emotionally traumatic, and as much as I think rape is despicable, I don't think killing the other innocent victim of the crime is justified.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110002 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:23 pm to
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Think what you want about me personally (though you don't even know me)


Well no need to know you personally to know that you're a morally repugnant individual simply from your opinion. You wouldn't say anyone who want to kill every single Jew and black person a stand up guy now would you. Your judgement of rape victims is similar.

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but I'm making an argument and you aren't really refuting what I'm saying, just calling me names because you don't like what I'm saying.


My refute is "holy fricking shite, this woman has been brutally raped and is pregnant. Of course we should give her an abortion as soon as possible so we can start the recovery process and the fact that this child conceived out of pure calamity doesn't deserve to see the light of day. Let's help out the actual living so we can make her into a highly functional adult and contributing/happy member of society."
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:25 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41867 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:27 pm to
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They aren't until they are viable, and able to live outside of the mothers womb, with or without medical intervention
When, exactly, does viability occur?

If a child or adult cannot live (even temporarily) without assistance, does that make them no longer viable?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110002 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:27 pm to
I mean you've downplayed the numbers, but he's downplaying when it actually happens. I don't think you're a bad person, but FooManChoo is Frollo. He's evil. He has posted the most morally repugnant things I've ever read on this site.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:27 pm to
Nope he originally said that to me on page 4
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110002 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:28 pm to
I think you're trivializing the numbers, but someone has polevaulted over you trivializing the act when it actually happens. You've successfully defended that you don't do that.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:29 pm
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:29 pm to
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23 year old girl that has casual sex and no care for protection doesn't get to have an abortion because she gets pregnant. That's an adult that knows what she is doing. That's fricking evil.


You can force a woman to give birth but you can't force a woman to love a child that she didn't want. There are millions of unwanted children in this country who are abused and murdered every year. Do we rally need more? Do you really want more children to suffer.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:29 pm to
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Once Trump is inevitably impeached (unless he really changes things),





You're spending way too much time with leftists that has been fantasizing about Trump being impeached.

The right and republicans had similar delusions about Obama and it never was going to happen. Even with a GOP Congress. And it never did.

quote:

I'm going to demand an apology from each and every person who was stupid enough to vote for Trump in the primaries.


Why do you think you're entitled to an apology from people who exercised their constitutional rights and voted for the candidate they supported the most?

That shite is unamerican as frick bro.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41867 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Well to me, to say that this child deserves a chance at life means that God planned for her to be raped. That makes God evil. If think this is just to carry the baby to turn regardless of the feelings of the mother, then that in turn makes you evil.

We may have our differences here on the Poliboard, but what you're saying is wholly evil and heartless. Shame on you.
I'd rather not derail this topic of abortion to discuss whether or not God is evil, but if you want to start another topic about it, I'd be more than happy to participate.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:29 pm to
My bad, I just assumed you knew how to use the Internet.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:30 pm to
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I mean you've downplayed the numbers


To be honest the numbers aren't exactly astronomical, 5% was about what I thought it would be at. That's a very very very very small amount compared to the 95% of women that get abortions just because they were careless.


I'm talking about the 95% and you are talking about the 5%. You can't justify 5% of abortions for all of them. Certain cases, yes, abortion is needed (health of mother, or rape). The VAST majority of cases, abortion is not needed and should be illegal.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:30 pm to
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My bad, I just assumed you knew how to use the Internet.

Could you go back to page 4 and look at how he responded directly to me? Can you use the internet?
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:32 pm to
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You can force a woman to give birth but you can't force a woman to love a child that she didn't want. There are millions of unwanted children in this country who are abused and murdered every year. Do we rally need more? Do you really want more children to suffer.



shite dmjones, if you mom didn't want you you wouldn't fricking be here. How many people aren't here today because a mom doesn't want them. There are plenty of great alternatives to not "wanting" a child.
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