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re: TikTokers are using AI to translate Hitler speeches

Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:44 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:44 am to
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Sounds like they are learning it themselves, from the source.
Indeed.

The problem being, they've been told for 80+ years Hitler's public personna was that of a raving lunatic screaming obtuse blether at his audience. Now they see those characterizations were an overt misrepresentation. So the unfortunate extension is, "If they lied to us about that, maybe they lied to us about Hitler being evil."

Just as ... if they lied to us about the Covid vax, maybe they lied to us about all vaccines.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 6:45 am
Posted by Schleynole
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:50 am to
Wait till they do Lincoln
Posted by Wildcat1996
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:52 am to
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set to well-known music on the platform called Drift Phonk without permission,


In a story about Hitler, some shite-stain "artist" is concerned with copyright.

Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:01 am to
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TikTokers are using AI to translate Hitler speeches
quote:

Users have pushed and even celebrated the Nazi leader’s remarks in what is an apparent violation of TikTok’s guidelines that ban “promoting (including any praise, celebration, or sharing of manifesto) or providing material support to … individuals who cause serial or mass violence, or promote hateful ideologies.”

Let's not think Trump won't fall under this one day. Fricking snowflake leftie democrats.

I bet they won't cause a stink over Stalin's, Marx, Mao, Che, etc getting their speeches translated b
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:03 am to
In the history books, the good guys always win.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:26 am to
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Hitler's number 1 priority was protecting Germany
and nothing says "I'm only protecting myself" like invading another country and genociding a race.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:41 am to
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Hitler's number 1 priority was protecting Germany and germans from outside interventionists looking to undermine the country.
Negative.
But that was the yarn he effectively spun, and it's damn important to realize why he could spin it.

Unfortunately, after being lied to for their entire lives, people are hearing for the first time what sounds to be a rational man, presenting reasonable thoughts, and some will reflexively conclude "Hitler wasn't so bad."
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:43 am to
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invading another country
The tell was Barbarossa. Until then, Hitler could spin everything on reclaiming land and resources stolen by Versailles.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:52 am to
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and nothing says "I'm only protecting myself" like invading another country and genociding a race.


He chose bad methods for his laudable goal.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:56 am to
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The tell was Barbarossa. Until then, Hitler could spin everything on reclaiming land and resources stolen by Versailles.


The passage of the Enabling Act after the Reichstag fire was a pretty big tell too.

Everyone should be alarmed when a politician consolidates power into a single person or small cabinet.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:09 am to
How is it wrong, then?
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:14 am to
Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike against a Soviet invasion of Europe. Remember, Stalin had already invaded Finland, Poland, the Baltic states, and was demanding to put troops into Romania, who was allied with Germany.

Stalin had also planned to allow Germany to fight a long, drawn out war against the Allies and for both to be weakened, then attack with the massive Red Army.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:32 am to
Did anyone else invade Poland before 1941?

trying to think here.

It’s like Stalin got half of it and someone else got the other half.

it was such an even split it was almost like they made a deal or something.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 9:54 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

He chose bad methods for his laudable goal.


Think if Hitler had the transportation means of today back then. Australia would have Jew tunnels from Brisbane to Perth.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:55 am to
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Did anyone else I be are Poland before 1941?

Autocorrect thing obviously, but could you redo the question?
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:05 am to
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Dude, we relied on the history books for the last 50 years and it was pure propaganda. Why did i never see a transcript? never see subtitles? i was told he was ranting crazy mean old man...... but those transcripts sound very rational. Also sounds very similar to what i am seeing in todays America. really makes you think.


What schools did you go to? That’s not how Hitler was taught in my schools. We learned about how ww2 was essentially an extension of ww1 (treaty of Versailles) and the issues in Germany that allowed Hitler to rise to power. His skill as a persuasive orator was always acknowledged.

What I don’t get is how people here are failing to understand Hitler’s speeches within their historical context - they’re propaganda. His words are chosen for a reason, primarily to manipulate and gather support for his desires. They may or may not reflect his true beliefs. It’s what he needed to tell the German population to get what he wanted. I see the same with how Putin’s speeches are accepted as gospel as well. It’s crazy how easy some people are to manipulate.
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:06 am to
DP
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Did anyone else invade Poland before 1941?

trying to think here.

It’s like Stalin got half of it and someone else got the other half.

it was such an even split it was almost like they made a deal or something.


The very same Poland the allies went to war over?!? Surely not. If the Soviets had invaded Poland Winston Churchill would have definitely declared war on the Soviets! Because that is why they went to war with Germany!

Poland’s sovereignty is sacred, it’s why the war was fought, and it’s why after the war the allies allowed Poland to become the most free and prosperous democracy in the world
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:20 am to
Different discussion. Saying Hitler invaded Russia because Russia invaded Poland is making excuses for Hitler.

But yeah, Hitler invading Poland First and being a neighbor of France put them way higher in England and France’s priority list.

They had already declared war on Germany when Russia invaded.


This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 10:23 am
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:22 am to
You’ve got me confused buddy
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