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re: Thoughts on 9/11
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:45 pm to LaTexSaint
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:45 pm to LaTexSaint
LaTexSaint it does not good. You can't make a cell phone call from a plane at 35000 feet but they just blow off all of the evidence that they can't explain and continue to believe what they have been told to believe.
I understand. There was a time when I couldn't believe it too. Now it is so obvious I wonder how it took me so long to wake up.
I understand. There was a time when I couldn't believe it too. Now it is so obvious I wonder how it took me so long to wake up.
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:46 pm to omegaman66
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You can't make a cell phone call from a plane at 35000 feet but they just blow off all of the evidence that they can't explain and continue to believe what they have been told to believe.
Huh?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:47 pm to Choctaw
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You can Google NIST official report on building 7. It's not that difficult.
duh, if it was an inside job why in the hell would you rely on the perps to tell you the truth?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:51 pm to Salmon
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we get frustrated when your questions get legitimately answered and you choose to ignore those answers
I get frustrated when yall don't address the questions answered. How can a cell phone available at the time of the attack make a call from 35000! Studies were conducted that showed this to be impossible. Radars at the time established the height of the plane and its speed.
I await your answer.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:52 pm to omegaman66
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I get frustrated when yall don't address the questions answered. How can a cell phone available at the time of the attack make a call from 35000! Studies were conducted that showed this to be impossible. Radars at the time established the height of the plane and its speed.
Link?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:52 pm to omegaman66
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get frustrated when yall don't address the questions answered. How can a cell phone available at the time of the attack make a call from 35000! Studies were conducted that showed this to be impossible. Radars at the time established the height of the plane and its speed.
They used AirFones.
That was easy.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:56 pm to Salmon
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They used AirFones.
That was easy.
I thought the planes were empty? How can you call from a plane you're not in?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:57 pm to upgrayedd
He thinks the calls were made from cruising altitude and is trying to debunk them. Which I'm pretty sure 35k would be low for those planes anyway. And as we know they were flying much lower.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:59 pm to ZappBrannigan
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Which I'm pretty sure 35k would be low for those planes anyway. And as we know they were flying much lower.
That's normal cruising altitude
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:00 pm to ZappBrannigan
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We'd have 1 out of every 10 people involved with the 9/11 "conspiracy" writing books and screaming from pulpits if it was true. America is good and great at many things, subterfuge is not one and it's why the Israelis and Russians kick our arse at it. It's the only thing they got going strong.
You don't have to believe in an active conspiracy to question the government's narrative. I think our government knew and let it happen. There's a small number of people who have that knowledge and decision making power to change anything, and shedding any light on that would not only ruin the careers and lives of anyone involved, it would also be highly criminal, given any documents pertaining to corroborate this would likely be Top Secret.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:00 pm to upgrayedd
Just shy of it. Pretty sure commercial likes to be 38k for the cross country flights.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:02 pm to ZappBrannigan
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Just shy of it. Pretty sure commercial likes to be 38k for the cross country flights.
Did any of those flights even get to cruising altitude?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:03 pm to RazorBroncs
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WTC7 had fires burning on over 30 floors for over 7 hours with ZERO water to fight it with. That’s over 300 vertical feet of building on fire, and the fires burned on 30 of the lower floors - that’s a LOT of weight on 300 feet of building that’s been compromised by hours of fires and debris from 1&2 slicing through it like butter when they fell.
So office fires on 30 floors brought down 40,000 tons of structural steel? Eighty columns of steel on each floor giving way simultaneously? Watch the NIST model and watch the building fall. They don't match because it shouldn't have came down at free fall speed.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:06 pm to Salmon
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They used AirFones.
That was easy.
No it wasn't easy [to debunk].
Yes it was easy to fool.
Yes, there were some calls made from airplane phones. I am not asking about those. I am talking about the people that received calls on their phones that have been proven to come from cell phones, not plane phones.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:06 pm to SCLibertarian
We never needed a conspiracy theory to start any of our bad wars. Even if the Maine wasn't brought down by a mine or we never got good location of where the Americans and Mexicans brawled we still went and beat the rat shite out of both after.
People try to blow this same smoke about Pearl Harbor too.
But in the grander scheme of things, and on the long timeline of human history someone confesses eventually of their sin.
People try to blow this same smoke about Pearl Harbor too.
But in the grander scheme of things, and on the long timeline of human history someone confesses eventually of their sin.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:08 pm to Pdubntrub
Why would the steel columns on floors or areas that weren't on fire collapse at the exact same time as columns in the heart of the fire?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:11 pm to Pdubntrub
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Why would the steel columns on floors or areas that weren't on fire collapse at the exact same time as columns in the heart of the fire?
Tell us what happened, then
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:12 pm to upgrayedd
Actually I'm trying to look that up. I would doubt they did or for long. Once they were in control and enroute they started resetting the flights codes to try to mess up radar tracking on ground. The calls were coming after people realized they were going to die. So they'd be low on approach or aiming. And the biggest targets were just shy of 1800' tall.
ETA: best I'm finding. This is for Flight 11.
It only reached 29k' before diverting on its attack run.
35k was apparently what it was being asked to divert to as shite went south.
ETA: best I'm finding. This is for Flight 11.
It only reached 29k' before diverting on its attack run.
35k was apparently what it was being asked to divert to as shite went south.
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It is believed that Waleed al-Shehri made the first move. At 08:13:29, as the aircraft was passing over central Massachusetts at 26,000 feet (7,900 m), the pilots responded to a request from Boston ARTCC to make a 20-degree turn to the right. At 08:13:47, Boston ARTCC told the pilots to ascend to a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet (11,000 m) but received no response.[20] It is believed that Captain Ogonowski was stabbed to death in order for the hijacker pilot Mohamed Atta to take control of the plane and crash it into the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Before dying, Ogonowski keyed the cockpit microphone; "pushing its button intermittently to signal that something was wrong and at one point allowing them to hear the voice of the hijacker."[22][23] At 08:16, the aircraft leveled off at 29,000 feet (8,800 m)[20]and shortly thereafter deviated from its scheduled path. Boston ARTCC made multiple attempts to talk to Flight 11 without reply,[11]and at 08:21, the flight stopped transmitting its Mode-C transponder signal.[20]
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:13 pm to SCLibertarian
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hilarious to see "conservatives" make fun of those in this thread who question the government's narrative
I can absolutely buy a corrupt government trying to undermine, frame and spy on a candidate that they despise. I can also buy elements of the government profiting from shipping weapons, drugs and God knows what else for their own gain.
These are different from staging a direct attack on NYC and the US resulting in the death of 3,000 citizens. Plus, as has been stated before this would have required a lot of people keeping their mouth shut.
Now, if we want to talk about the CIA involved with admitting these terrorists for some other purpose or even smaller incidents - and they then go rogue - I’m all ears.
The story about how the Saudis got evacuated and how the terrorists got into the country and whether they were surveiled is more to the point I believe.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:23 pm to Pdubntrub
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Why would the steel columns on floors or areas that weren't on fire collapse at the exact same time as columns in the heart of the fire?
I would assume that if one floor collapsed bringing the full weight of the upper floor down on the lower this would create a hell of a lot of downward force instantaneously.
But I concede I’m not a structural engineer.
If the building was previously rigged to explode....wouldn’t the damage caused by the fall of the other buildings and fires within WT7 disrupt those demolitions and cause early explosions or failures? I would assume fires would wreak havoc with the fuse cords.
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