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re: Those who served - would you say the US military is still the best in the world?

Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:46 am to
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They aren't. But they aren't bound by bleeding hearts like we are either.

China is having issues with their ghost cities and dams collapsing right now. they have other issues holding them back. it isn't a utopia.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:46 am to
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We have hypersonic weapons as well. We have everything and more than what the Chinese and Russians have. I’m not so sure we would 100% lose in a war with either of them. Ground war would be total hell but in a missile war, I think our odds would be pretty good. I just find it hard to believe that the Chinese or Russians are more advanced with military technology than we are, and isn’t that what would give us the edge in a missile war anyways?

I think you're right, re: military technology. I believe we still have a substantial edge there. However, with regards to missile technology, as I'm sure some famous dead general said:

Fires without maneuver is indecisive (and maneuver without fires is suicide).
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:46 am to
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it's realistic, we have been spending more on our military than the next strongest countries combined for decades now

You ever stop to think about how corrupt our military procurement system is? How much of that money actually procures weapons for the battlefield?
Do you think china, russia, or iran suffer those same problems? If you do, you better wake up.
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1909 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:46 am to
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If we had a big war that required a draft America would prevail because the men in this country would step up to the plate and do the fighting.


I hope you are being sarcastic. This country grows weaker by the day. There was a poll out recently that said half the men in their 20s weren't even trying to date women anymore. They were too scared.

Those cucks are going to step up to the plate? bullshite.

WW3 will be a nuclear war anyway. Not much will matter after that.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:47 am to
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so you think we drew/lost WW2?

obvious troll comment, gtfo
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2960 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:49 am to
Our military is only as a good as its allowed to be.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:51 am to
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Pentagon needs to move away from the standard .556 cartridge to something bigger - like the 6.5 or 6.8


They already are
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297270 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:51 am to
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China is having issues with their ghost cities


These ghost cities are the house of cards for the Chinese.

Its how the average Chinese build wealth. Buy a worthless apartment (doesn't even have utilities hooked up) to sit on until you can sell for profit.

Evidently the value drops if you put utilities or finish the inside of the apartment. They aren't made to be occupied. Just vast cities of empty shells.

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By contrast, "commodity housing" can be bought and sold as an investment. Because housing is a physical object, and China's large population guarantees an ongoing demand for housing, commodity housing is considered a more secure way to store money.
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:51 am to
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Its built for global domination, not for you and I.

If it had not been every american born after ww2 until present day would have a much lower quality of life. Life isn't always pretty.
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:53 am to
When they decided to let transvestites serve and women in the infantry we definitely took a step back.

Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17423 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:53 am to
I doubt we would pussy foot around with the Chinese or Russians. The only reason why we’ve pussy footed around is for “humanitarian” reasons. That’s why we couldn’t beat the Vietnamese or wipe out the Taliban, because we would have had to kill a lot of people to do that, and that’s something the leader of the free world can’t do. We would have had to go scorched earth which we were more than capable of doing, just not willing to do it on those enemies. The Chinese or Russians, I don’t think we’d hold back at all.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17423 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:56 am to
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Fires without maneuver is indecisive (and maneuver without fires is suicide).


That makes sense.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15911 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:57 am to
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We still have the best military in the world. No one can even come close to matching our military. Best military this planet has ever seen.


All that Rah Rah stuff in nice but you're wrong.

We haven't had the best military since Clinton took over adn gutted the military to "balance" his budget.

We have more of all the outdated equipment than anyone else, but we no long have the best equipment technology.

See Clinton wasn't big on the military

Bush used up a tremendous amount of military resources.

Obama hated the military.

Trump saw the problem with the woeful state of the military but didn't have a chance to do much about it.

Biden thinks the military should be drag queen story hour.

China has been stealing our technology for decades (and Clinton even gave them a lot of it in the early years) and they have quietly built the largest Navy in the world. Best? don't know yet as they haven't used it yet.

I'm not sure what to think about Russia mainly because I'm not sure about how much of the MSM's depiction of this Russia/Ukraine conflict is real and how much is Hollywood.

But they're not looking too good right now.

But we have a few tricks up our sleeve but make no mistake this isn't your dads or grandads military.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:58 am to
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That’s why we couldn’t beat the Vietnamese or wipe out the Taliban, because we would have had to kill a lot of people to do that, and that’s something the leader of the free world can’t do.

while i agree with the sentiment of your post, what you're saying here about Vietnam and the Taliban is untrue. what other people do you think we could have killed in vietnam OR afghansitan that would have resulted in a different outcome?
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:00 pm to
You willing to take a lower quality of life to save a few bucks? Make that same trade for your grandchildren?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297270 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Its built for global domination, not for you and I.

If it had not been every american born after ww2 until present day would have a much lower quality of life. Life isn't always pretty.


This is a pretty poor method of increasing quality of life for your people.

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:02 pm to
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This is a pretty poor method of increasing quality of life for your people.

yep. but the other methods are worse.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297270 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:04 pm to
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yep. but the other methods are worse.



Switzerland has done just fine.
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:05 pm to
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I just find it hard to believe that the Chinese or Russians are more advanced with military technology than we are, and isn’t that what would give us the edge in a missile war anyways?

Been explained to you already. They have the same tech we do, they either stole it, or we gave it to them.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:06 pm to
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we have superior technology and equipment to everyone else


this hasnt been true since obama took office and weakened every part of our military and forced all military leaders to resign or retire and replaced them with woke pushers.

china is now the world leader in superior technology and equipment to everyone else and its not even close

The dumbest quotes always seem to be shared by the most confident of speakers.
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 12:20 pm
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