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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:31 pm to VolcanicTiger
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What, did something happen during this time out of the ordinary? Something of a pandemic nature?
Yeah, the president was usurped by bureaucratic forces.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:32 pm to rmnldr
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Yeah, the president was usurped by bureaucratic forces.
And so was RON!
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:33 pm to Fun Bunch
It's going to be fun watching the Bro Cult pretend they're conservatives while trashing Paul, Massie, Roy, etc.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:36 pm to rmnldr
BDR2024
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:36 pm to VolcanicTiger
The Federal budget deficit in FY 2018 was $779,000,000,000.
In FY 2019, it was $984,000,000,000.
These were, at the time, the 4th and 5th worst budget deficits in the history of the US. The only worse years were 2009-2011.
In FY 2019, it was $984,000,000,000.
These were, at the time, the 4th and 5th worst budget deficits in the history of the US. The only worse years were 2009-2011.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:37 pm to Jjdoc
Spin this one JjGoebbels.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:39 pm to Jjdoc
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And so was RON!
Kept his state open
Prevented mandates for school children
Passed legislation protecting workers from forced mandates
Massive influx of new residents and business
Followed REAL science - kept beaches open, pissed off Donny Boy and the Dems
Pushed Regeneron and monoclonal antibodies over ineffective vaccines once the data showed they didn’t work
Ron followed the REAL scientific data and disobeyed orders from Washington’s Fauci and Trump
His decisive actions earned him attacks from all sides and saved his state
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:44 pm to rmnldr
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Kept his state open
His EO says differently. The arrests made that his EO made possible says "100s in March of 2021 arrested"
His Words on TV telling Businesses at the end of June 2020 that he has directed covid rule breaking business to have the licensees removed says you don't know what you are talking about.
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Prevented mandates for school children
Passed legislation protecting workers from forced mandates
SOmething Trump never pushed for and fought against!
Cool.
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Followed REAL science - kept beaches open,
Hundreds arrested in march 2021 and made possible by his EO... He rescinded that EO in May 2021 effective date of June 2021
etc etc etc....
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:45 pm to Jjdoc
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His EO says differently. The arrests made that his EO made possible says "100s in March of 2021 arrested"
This is junior high level propaganda.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:47 pm to the808bass
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This is junior high level propaganda.
Oh come on 808, you are better than that. You know damn well I can produce the EO that delegated the powers to various state organizations.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:47 pm to the808bass
He has me convinced trump can beat a potato this time. Lol.
He’s just jealous that I was on the beach and didn’t get arrested.
He’s just jealous that I was on the beach and didn’t get arrested.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:48 pm to armsdealer
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There isn't a libertarian or libertarian leaning republican that can support Trump, he is the complete opposite of a libertarian.
So they voted for Biden?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:48 pm to Jjdoc
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His EO says differently.
Floridians don't.
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Hundreds arrested in march 2021 and made possible by his EO...
Just to refresh everyone, Jjhogg used an EO that expired April 2020 and an arrest that happened August 2020 as evidence that DeSantis "made the arrests possible."
We all know he's full of shite, but wanted to make sure this reminder is here.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:49 pm to Jjdoc
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EO that delegated the powers
What powers?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON DESANTIS, as Governor of Florida, by virtue of the authority vested in me by Article IV, Section (1 )(a) of the Florida Constitution, and all other applicable laws, promulgate the following Executive Or~er to take immediate effect: Section .1. Because. of the foregoing conditions, I direct the State Health Officer and Surgeon General, Dr. Scott Rivkees, to declare a public health emergency in the State of Florida, pursuant to his authority in section 381.003 15, Florida Statutes. The State Health Officer is authorized and directed to use his judgment as to the duration of this public health emergency . . Section 2. In accordance with section 381.0011(7), Florida Statutes, i direct the State Health Officer to take any action necessary to protect the public health. Section 3. I direct the State Health Officer to follow the guid~lines established by the CDC in establishing prpto..co!s tQ. qontrol the spread qf.COVlD-1 9 and educate the public on prevention.
LINK
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Section 2. I designate the Director of the Division of Emergency Management ("Director") as the State Coordinating Officer for the duration of this emergency and direct him to execute the State's Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan and other response, recovery, and mitigation plans necessary to cope with the emergency. Additionally, I designate the State Health Officer and Surgeon General as a Deputy State Coordinating Officer and State Incident Commander. Pursuant to section 252.36(1 )(a), Florida Statutes, I delegate to the State Coordinating Officer the authority to exercise those powers delineated in sections 252.36(5)-(10), Florida Statutes, which he shall exercise as needed to meet this emergency, subject to the limitations of section 252.33, Florida Statutes. In exercising the powers delegated by this Order, the State Coordinating Officer shall confer with the Governor to the fullest extent practicable. The State Coordinating Officer shall also have the authority to: A. Seek direct assistance and enter into agreements with any and all agencies of the United States Government as may be needed to meet the emergency. B. Designate additional Deputy State Coordinating Officers, as necessary. C. Suspend the effect of any statute, rule, or order that would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay any mitigation, response, or recovery action necessary to cope with this emergency.
LINK
Seems like it was delegated to others to enforce plans and CDC recommendations.
The full list is here -> LINK
NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON DESANTIS, as Governor of Florida, by virtue of the authority vested in me by Article IV, Section (1 )(a) of the Florida Constitution, and all other applicable laws, promulgate the following Executive Or~er to take immediate effect: Section .1. Because. of the foregoing conditions, I direct the State Health Officer and Surgeon General, Dr. Scott Rivkees, to declare a public health emergency in the State of Florida, pursuant to his authority in section 381.003 15, Florida Statutes. The State Health Officer is authorized and directed to use his judgment as to the duration of this public health emergency . . Section 2. In accordance with section 381.0011(7), Florida Statutes, i direct the State Health Officer to take any action necessary to protect the public health. Section 3. I direct the State Health Officer to follow the guid~lines established by the CDC in establishing prpto..co!s tQ. qontrol the spread qf.COVlD-1 9 and educate the public on prevention.
LINK
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Section 2. I designate the Director of the Division of Emergency Management ("Director") as the State Coordinating Officer for the duration of this emergency and direct him to execute the State's Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan and other response, recovery, and mitigation plans necessary to cope with the emergency. Additionally, I designate the State Health Officer and Surgeon General as a Deputy State Coordinating Officer and State Incident Commander. Pursuant to section 252.36(1 )(a), Florida Statutes, I delegate to the State Coordinating Officer the authority to exercise those powers delineated in sections 252.36(5)-(10), Florida Statutes, which he shall exercise as needed to meet this emergency, subject to the limitations of section 252.33, Florida Statutes. In exercising the powers delegated by this Order, the State Coordinating Officer shall confer with the Governor to the fullest extent practicable. The State Coordinating Officer shall also have the authority to: A. Seek direct assistance and enter into agreements with any and all agencies of the United States Government as may be needed to meet the emergency. B. Designate additional Deputy State Coordinating Officers, as necessary. C. Suspend the effect of any statute, rule, or order that would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay any mitigation, response, or recovery action necessary to cope with this emergency.
LINK
Seems like it was delegated to others to enforce plans and CDC recommendations.
The full list is here -> LINK
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:51 pm to Tiger985
Failure to endorse Trump should not be anyone's litmus test. Many people believe DeSantis is a superior executive choice for valid reasons.
Yes, I prefer DeSantis for POTUS but I liked him even before 2020. The guy has done a superior job as Governor and turned a major purple state solid Red. Most of the RINO hype about him is just loud noise.
Truth be known I would crawl over broken glass for either Trump or DeSantis to be the next president but in a side by side comparison, I just see more reasons for DeSantis than for Trump. BTW, I voted for Trump twice and sent money to his campaign twice.
Yes, I prefer DeSantis for POTUS but I liked him even before 2020. The guy has done a superior job as Governor and turned a major purple state solid Red. Most of the RINO hype about him is just loud noise.
Truth be known I would crawl over broken glass for either Trump or DeSantis to be the next president but in a side by side comparison, I just see more reasons for DeSantis than for Trump. BTW, I voted for Trump twice and sent money to his campaign twice.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:51 pm to Jjdoc
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established by the CDC
Yikes.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:52 pm to Jjdoc
By the way, to catch everyone up, this is what Jjhogg tried to pivot to when I busted his arse on 20-89.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:52 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Yep. With DeSantis's signature on the EO.
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