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This Presidents Day, lets all remember the GOAT

Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:55 pm
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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:16 pm to
Coolidge should be rated poorly for crisis leadership and failing to work for equal justice for all Americans. He refused to use the country’s economic boom to help struggling farmers and workers in other flailing industries. I give him credit for having a scandal free administration and being fisically sound especially on increasing the estate tax. Still, his intellectual laziness on foreign affairs finds him wanting among more dynamic presidents. I’ll be generous and rank him in the top 25.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:30 pm to
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Coolidge should be rated poorly for crisis leadership and failing to work for equal justice for all Americans. He refused to use the country’s economic boom to help struggling farmers and workers in other flailing industries. I give him credit for having a scandal free administration and being fisically sound especially on increasing the estate tax. Still, his intellectual laziness on foreign affairs finds him wanting among more dynamic presidents. I’ll be generous and rank him in the top 25.


If we wanted someone “dynamic” to be our leader, we should’ve stayed in Great Britain under a monarch. Just balance the budget, keep our taxes low, keep us out of foreign entanglements, and the free market takes care of the rest.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:36 pm to
Wut??

Dude was first one to push for comprehensive civil rights act
Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:37 pm to
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If we wanted someone “dynamic” to be our leader, we should’ve stayed in Great Britain under a monarch. Just balance the budget, keep our taxes low, keep us out of foreign entanglements, and the free market takes care of the rest.


Unregulated free markets helped create the Grrat Depression. Disengagement from the world has consequences as well. Without American leadership others begin to fill that void. Germany, Russia, Japan, Italy etc... I’m not blaming Coolidge for the depression or later World War but inaction by Presidents along with American disengagement doesn’t happen inside of a vaccum. Bad actors will inevitably fill our void.
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:40 pm to
If any of you happen to be near his hometown in Vermont I highly recommend a quick stop for a couple hours. The small town has been almost completely preserved. He was sworn in in his living room in the middle of the night.
Posted by Rougarou13
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Coolidge should be rated poorly for crisis leadership and failing to work for equal justice for all Americans. He refused to use the country’s economic boom to help struggling farmers and workers in other flailing industries. I give him credit for having a scandal free administration and being fisically sound especially on increasing the estate tax. Still, his intellectual laziness on foreign affairs finds him wanting among more dynamic presidents. I’ll be generous and rank him in the top 25.



Coolidge was a civil rights pioneer, frequently speaking out in support of African Americans.

Between him and Harding, for whom he was VP, they are responsible for the roaring 20s, all while shrinking the federal govt

He was a noninterventionist.
Posted by Rougarou13
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:43 pm to
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Unregulated free markets helped create the Grrat Depression


That’s not at all correct. And a healthy free market can take a hit, even the size of the Great Depression, and recover.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:46 pm to
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Unregulated free markets helped create the Grrat Depression.


This could not be more wrong. The Federal Reserve set the stage for the Great Depression by significantly cutting interest rates while at the same time increasing the money supply. Bankers went into debt they could never pay back because of this. Further intervention into the economy by both Hoover and Roosevelt by increasing taxes, instituting tariffs, and fighting the liquidation of the debt and deflation of the money supply prolonged the agony. There was a depression in 1921 that only lasted 6 months because government stayed out of the way.

Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:51 pm to
Immigration Act of 1924 was designed to keep Asians, Arabs and South/ East Europeans out of US. Coolidge deserves high marks for his contribution to black institutions like Howard. Still, during flood of 1927 Miss River levees were relieved of pressure in areas where whites didn’t live. Entire black communities were displaced.

I do think Coolidge saw injustice blacks faced. Maybe a more outspoken President could have moved progress along faster for blacks.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:53 pm to
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Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:58 pm to
By the way, an economy unregulated by the federal government ironically has the toughest regulations. For example, if General Motors had not gotten a giant bailout from the government at the expense of the taxpayers, they would have filed for bankruptcy just like any other business would be expected to do for making poor choices.
Posted by Rougarou13
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:59 pm to
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I do think Coolidge saw injustice blacks faced. Maybe a more outspoken President could have moved progress along faster for blacks


Are you judging him by today’s standards? That’s a little unfair. He did a lot considering the temp of the country.

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Still, during flood of 1927 Miss River levees were relieved of pressure in areas where whites didn’t live. Entire black communities were displaced.


He believed landowners should bear the brunt of the costs, and rightly so. Just like the beach, if you build/own along a disaster prone area then you should be willing and ready to absorb at least some financial burden if hit by a disaster.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:01 pm to
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I’ll be generous and rank him in the top 25.




Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:04 pm to
Coolidge took a very laissez-faire approach, backing away from nearly all government regulation of the economy. He let industries manage themselves and the American economy boomed. The Roaring 20s was characterized by wealth and growth. It seemed crazy at the time but this growth was built on unstable lending practices and the growth of credit as a way for average people to practice conspicuous consumption. In 1929 a weak foundation broke and the economy came crashing down. Coolidge's lack of regulation certainly opened the door for companies to expand these unstable practices, but Coolidge himself cannot necessarily be credited or condemned for the Depression. Still to say he he didn’t contribute is intellectually dishonest. The Great Depression happened only a couple months after he left office.
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:05 pm to
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This could not be more wrong. The Federal Reserve set the stage for the Great Depression by significantly cutting interest rates while at the same time increasing the money supply. Bankers went into debt they could never pay back because of this. Further intervention into the economy by both Hoover and Roosevelt by increasing taxes, instituting tariffs, and fighting the liquidation of the debt and deflation of the money supply prolonged the agony. There was a depression in 1921 that only lasted 6 months because government stayed out of the way.




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