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re: This List of Suspected Next Indictments Has Potential
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:30 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:30 pm to cajunangelle
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Now explain what a strike force means in relation to what Ed did.
You would have to spoon-feed me the pertinent underlying information b/c I am not sure what you're referencing.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:32 pm to VoxDawg
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Just for grins, why don't we let this play out and then we'll see what happens when the smoke clears?
Even if you're proven wrong for the 1,000th time in a row, you will just pivot (like you did with Epstein) and hide in your inability to give clear arguments or beliefs.
And if that fails, you'll just do the black pill "muh Deep State" silliness that people are already lining up to inject with the shitty Comey case in VA.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
I can only look at hopium like this and laugh.
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GRAND CONSPIRACY This is the Fort Pierce, Florida Grand Jury announcement @mrddmia was talking about. They are going to look at the and all the events since 2016 that culminated in the Mar-o-Lago Raid
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:37 pm to VoxDawg
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Mike Davis says the biggest scandal in U.S. history is about to blow wide open, and it’s not “Russian collusion.”
The Obama, Biden, and Hillary crew didn’t just spy on Trump.
They weaponized America’s intelligence agencies to destroy him.
If what Davis is saying is true, Crossfire Hurricane isn’t Watergate 2.0.
It’s treason.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:39 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:40 pm to VoxDawg
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If what Davis is saying is true,
Friends don’t let friends get taken by Mike Davis.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:42 pm to Decatur
Better than going to one's grave as having bought into Chris Steele's piss dossier.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:47 pm to VoxDawg
So are we just pretending now that John Durham never happened?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 2:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ed Martin's strike force. In DOJ terms define it.
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Not in the least. The Clinesmith & Danchenko prosecutions didn't have to result in conviction to get many of the material facts that subsequent indictments will be based on entered into record.
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Material Facts from Kevin Clinesmith's Prosecution
Kevin Clinesmith, a former FBI attorney, pleaded guilty in August 2020 to one felony count of making a false statement (18 U.S.C. § 1001) as part of John Durham's probe into the origins of the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation. His case centered on misconduct related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant applications for surveilling Carter Page, a former Trump campaign advisor. The guilty plea and associated court documents (including the Statement of Facts) established the following key facts, which were entered as evidence and could substantiate claims of broader FISA abuse in subsequent "Spygate" prosecutions (e.g., under 18 U.S.C. § 1001 for false statements or 50 U.S.C. § 1809 for illegal FISA surveillance):
Alteration of CIA Email: In June 2017, Clinesmith received an email from a CIA liaison confirming that Carter Page had been an "operational contact" for the CIA from 2008 to 2013, providing information on Russian intelligence activities. Clinesmith altered this email by inserting the words "not a source," falsely implying Page had never assisted the CIA. This doctored version was forwarded to an FBI supervisory agent and used in the fourth FISA renewal application for Page in June 2017.
Impact on FISA Renewals: The falsified email contributed to omissions in the FISA application, which failed to disclose Page's CIA cooperation. This renewal extended surveillance on Page for another 90 days, despite the Justice Department's Inspector General (IG) report later concluding that the applications contained 17 "significant inaccuracies and omissions." Clinesmith's actions directly undermined the FISA Court's (FISC) requirement for full disclosure of exculpatory information.
Anti-Trump Bias in Communications: Text messages from Clinesmith's FBI phone showed overt bias, including calling Trump a "f***ing idiot" and expressing disdain for the Trump administration. While not the basis for the charge, these were referenced in sentencing memos as evidence of motive, potentially linking individual misconduct to a pattern of politicization in Crossfire Hurricane.
Reliance by FBI Colleagues: Another FBI official relied on Clinesmith's altered email to certify the FISA renewal's accuracy to the FISC. This chain of reliance was documented, highlighting systemic failures in verification processes.
These facts could support subsequent charges against higher-level FBI officials (e.g., for conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. § 371 or FISA violations) by demonstrating deliberate falsification to sustain unwarranted surveillance on a U.S. citizen tied to the Trump campaign.
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Material Facts from Igor Danchenko's Prosecution
Igor Danchenko, a Russian analyst and primary sub-source for Christopher Steele's dossier, was indicted in November 2021 on five counts of making false statements to the FBI (18 U.S.C. § 1001). He was acquitted on four counts in October 2022 after one count was dismissed pre-trial, but the trial testimony and exhibits aired extensive evidence of dossier unreliability and FBI mishandling. These facts, presented via witness testimony, emails, and FBI records, could bolster "Spygate" cases alleging fabrication of intelligence to justify the Trump-Russia probe (e.g., under 18 U.S.C. § 371 for conspiracy to defraud the U.S. or § 1001 for false statements to investigators):
Danchenko's Fabricated Phone Call with Sergei Millian: Danchenko claimed in 2017 FBI interviews that an anonymous July 2016 phone call from Sergei Millian (former Russian-American Chamber of Commerce president) provided key dossier allegations, including a "well-developed conspiracy of cooperation" between the Trump campaign and Russia. Evidence showed no such call occurred: Traditional phone records lacked evidence, Danchenko's follow-up email to Millian made no reference to it, and Millian denied contact. FBI agents testified this fabrication "would ultimately underpin" FISA warrants on Page and resource allocation for Crossfire Hurricane.
No Oral Communication with Charles Dolan on Dossier Matters: Danchenko denied "talking" to Charles Dolan (a Clinton ally and PR executive) about dossier information, but emails proved they discussed it extensively in 2016. Dolan testified he provided Danchenko with rumors, including unverified claims about Trump advisor Michael Cohen in Prague (a core dossier allegation later debunked). U.S. District Judge Anthony Trenga dismissed this count pre-trial, ruling Danchenko's denial "literally true" (as they only emailed), but the emails were admitted as evidence of sourcing ties to Clinton operatives.
Uncorroborated Ritz-Carlton Allegations: Danchenko sourced the dossier's infamous "pee tape" claim (alleging Trump hired prostitutes in Moscow's Ritz-Carlton in 2013) to a June 2016 hotel visit, but trial evidence showed he never stayed there and the source (an unnamed individual) did not recall discussing it or knowing details before media reports. Durham sought (but was denied) admission of this to show fabrication, yet related testimony confirmed the dossier's reliance on hearsay.
FBI's Failure to Vet Dossier Sources: FBI witnesses (e.g., Agent Kevin Helson) testified the bureau offered Steele $1 million to corroborate dossier claims but received nothing substantive. Despite this, the FBI used unverified info for FISA applications and devoted resources to investigate Trump ties. Helson called Danchenko a "valuable" informant overall, but admitted the FBI overlooked red flags like his ties to Dolan and lack of Millian evidence, painting Crossfire Hurricane as "bumbling" and overly reliant on the dossier.
Broader Dossier-Clinton Links: Testimony linked Danchenko to Clinton via Dolan (who attended the 2016 Democratic Convention) and Fusion GPS (dossier funders). Emails showed Danchenko emailing Steele in 2016 about "very interesting" U.S. election info, tying back to Clinton's opposition research.
These revelations undermine the dossier's role in launching/escalating Crossfire Hurricane and could evidence conspiracy in future prosecutions against Steele, Fusion GPS principals (e.g., Glenn Simpson), or FBI leaders for using fabricated intel.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:03 pm to VoxDawg
quote:What do you think the charges will be?
I absolutely think Schiff & Brennan are on deck
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:05 pm to VoxDawg
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Not in the least. The Clinesmith & Danchenko prosecutions didn't have to result in conviction to get many of the material facts that subsequent indictments will be based on entered into record.
All within the scope of John Durham’s investigation. Are you telling me he could have indicted others but chose not do so…for reasons?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:09 pm to AlxTgr
There's a case to be made for treason/sedition, but for some that might be a stretch. Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law is also a term that gets tossed around a lot, since we're looking at a whole host of Constitutional rights of the individuals who were illegally spied on which were violated under the guise of "national security".
There's a SCOTUS precedent from Unites States v. Price (the Mississippi Burning case) where non-government defendants were included in the prosecution because of their involvement in the criminal actions taken against the victims. This could get interesting if the case can be made against many members of the MSM who willingly carried water for the Obama administration as they kept the #MuhRussia train going.
There's a SCOTUS precedent from Unites States v. Price (the Mississippi Burning case) where non-government defendants were included in the prosecution because of their involvement in the criminal actions taken against the victims. This could get interesting if the case can be made against many members of the MSM who willingly carried water for the Obama administration as they kept the #MuhRussia train going.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:13 pm to Decatur
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Are you telling me he could have indicted others but chose not do so…for reasons?
In a world where Jeb Boasberg worked overtime to clear Clinesmith in as many ways as he could, both Clinesmith's & Danchenko's prosecutions proved that the black robe firewall that we've seen employed in 2025 to countermand as many of Trump's actions as the head of the Executive Branch as they can, was in place during the Durham proceedings.
It demonstrated that the Swamp will do everything they can to protect themselves, and that it's practically impossible to get an impartial trial in DC.
This is also why the grand juries and any resulting trials are best conducted outside of the Beltway when possible.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:17 pm to VoxDawg
AG Barr refused charging Comey, et al...Mueller was clean up for them as well as a way to put Trump over a black cloud for a long time...
This ran out the SOL's. Running out the clock was the game.
This ran out the SOL's. Running out the clock was the game.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:28 pm to cajunangelle
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This ran out the SOL's.
Not necessarily. The timing of the Durham SC prosecutions pressed pause on much of that when the evidence was submitted. In that regard, the Durham investigation only "failed" in terms of getting the books thrown at Clinesmith & Danchenko.
I'm of the opinion that there is voluminous evidence that was entered into record during those two proceedings that will sound awfully familiar when it comes back up in future prosecutions.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:28 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:28 pm to VoxDawg
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Clinesmith's & Danchenko's prosecutions proved that the black robe firewall that we've seen employed in 2025 to countermand as many of Trump's actions as the head of the Executive Branch as they can, was in place during the Durham proceedings.
Clinesmith pleaded guilty. Danchenko’s just wasn’t a strong case. Any other excuses?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 3:29 pm to VoxDawg
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Not necessarily. The timing of the Durham SC prosecutions pressed pause on much of that when the evidence was submitted.
This is gobbledygook. You have no clue what you’re talking about.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:29 pm to Decatur
You're probably right. Let's wait and see what Morning Joe tells us is really happening.
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