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re: This isn’t a great look for the pentagon. They appear to claim Mormons aren’t Christians

Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:33 pm to
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How does anyone on the board take the OP seriously? The poster admitted to voting for Biden in the 2020 election.


It’s a fluid situation.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:34 pm to
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You can say they’re not good Christians. Or are incorrect for their deviations. But they believe in what the core of the religion is. Christ = son of god. Savior.

Father - Son - Holy Spirit.

You can’t dispute that.

Sigh.

The description of someone matters.

If I say I know Jesus, and I'm talking about the local mechanic who came here from Honduras, I mean someone very different than someone else saying they know Jesus of the Bible.

So it is with Mormon Jesus, he's a creation that was definitely inspired in name and some characteristics of historical and biblical Jesus, but that's it.

You believe that Jesus was created, Christians beleive in John 1, In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Pretty basic and backed up by Church Councils.

Mormons believe in exaltation, to Christians that is Satanic.

But most of all, when Christians got a new set of books they stopped calling themselves Jewish.
It was a new religion.

Same with Muslims and Mormons.

It doesn't matter if you still think the old ones have value.

You have a whole new set of books.

Just accept it, you have gone your own way, your own religion.

We won't wind up in the same place.

If that scares you, think it through.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47181 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:35 pm to
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There are no religions that believe in the atonement and the resurrection of Christ that aren’t Christian. That’s the religion


Mormons do not believe Christ is God in the same way Christians do. He is subservient to the Father.
Posted by TigerVespamon
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:38 pm to
Theyre not the only Christian religion that believe the father and son are separate people.

If you want to give Christianity the label of “you must believe they’re the same person “, that’s fine. But that’s not the actual definition.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 9:39 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:38 pm to
That’s correct.

Their only concern is Heavenly Father.

If anyone ever wants to know about the absolute weirdness of Mormonism, I can share a temple tour that will make understand how weird they really are. Not join me in spaceship weird but still.

ETA: funny seals.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 10:04 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47181 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:39 pm to
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If you want to give Christianity the label of “you must believe they’re the same person “, that’s fine. But that’s not the actual definition.


No, that is a requisite of being a Christian.
Posted by TigerBear1971
Member since May 2026
87 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:39 pm to
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What's wrong with the Masonic Lodge, IYO?


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It is a cult.

Wow. Agree to disagree.
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1020 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:40 pm to
Ok so you believe that’s required to be Christian. I understand that. But that’s just your belief
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47181 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:41 pm to
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Ok so you believe that’s required to be Christian. I understand that. But that’s just your belief


I don't know what confusion would've led to this lack of understanding. Yes, I am saying that believing Christ is the One True God is a requisite to being a Christian.
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:42 pm to
You’re being intentionally vague.

Do you believe they have to technically be the same person? You’re not answering.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
13330 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:42 pm to
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Why. I live amongt them.


I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I know many mormans. They are awesome people. They do great works. But in my opinion according to their beliefs they are not Christians. No judgement.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158434 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:44 pm to
We agree then.

They aren’t Christians in any meaningful way.

And yes, they are wonderful people with an admirable sense of family. That is the one good part of them that I admire.

ETA: Affordabl? Dang it text to talk. Utah rich is a thing.

Didn’t expect the commies to get triggered. 5 triggered commies
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 11:00 am
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
13330 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:46 pm to
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And yes, they are wonderful people with an affordable sense of family. That is the one good part of them that I admire.


We have an accord
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47181 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:46 pm to
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You’re being intentionally vague.

Do you believe they have to technically be the same person? You’re not answering.


I do not see how I'm being vague, let alone being "intentionally vague". I am trying to be intentionally clear.

Do Mormons believe Christ is the Supreme Being?
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:54 pm to
Ok so you’re being intentionally vague again. No worries. And once again not answering.

I think there are sects of “Christianity” that may believe that Christ is the one true God but not singular and believe in more of the trinity aspect. So they believe in the trinity as a supreme being and all three together make that supreme being. Mormons fall under that category. Which may not fall under Christian for you. That’s ok.

You’re one that clearly believes it to be all one person. At least that’s what I’m gathering here. You won’t answer.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127479 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:59 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!
Every time I think you cannot post anything stupider you prove me wrong.

Congrats.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47181 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:01 pm to
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Ok so you’re being intentionally vague again. No worries. And once again not answering.


I am in no way being vague. You are also not answering very direct questions I am asking.

Do Mormons believe Christ is the Supreme Being?

The answer is "No".

Further, it should be of no surprise to you that a Protestant like Hegseth, in a Protestant country like America, believes Mormonism falls short of Christianity.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 10:03 pm
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1020 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:04 pm to
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Do Mormons believe Christ is the Supreme Being?
Yes
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47181 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:04 pm to
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Every time I think you cannot post anything stupider you prove me wrong.



This is on you, not him.

Don't forget two weeks ago he posted about his diarrhea-inducing panic attack derived from Trump supporting Paxton.
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