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Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:03 am to
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16972 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:03 am to
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the problem with all this shite is the false narratives about the mike browns, alton sterlings, freddie grays,etc


Precisely the problem.

I just wish there were a solution
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135491 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:05 am to
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Taylor was involved in the drug trade.
At least that is the LMPD yarn. Jamarcus Glover was a offered July plea deal if he would implicate Breonna Taylor as part of 'organized crime syndicate' LINK
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15053 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:08 am to
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Didn’t her man shoot at cops through a door?


Yes. But they broke in the door. I'd have shot also.

What's stupid about this is you won't solve anything with the low informed rioter.

They attacked Rand Paul screaming at him to "say her name". They were to stupid to know he authored a bill against no knock warrants with her name on the title.

No knock warrants are shite. They should be stopped.

This case was shite. The cops on this case had some real loose information they used to execute the warrant. She was killed. Shouldn't have happened.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135491 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:09 am to
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serial wife cheater and vicodin thief pill head
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an adulterer(Trump) and a prescription drug user(Rush)
So as you employ identical derisives, you criticize others for the same?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125291 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:10 am to
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It was a search warrant for her apartment because her ex/other boyfriend was on recorded calls from jail saying she was holding money for him.


The calls in the report that said she was holding money are after she was shot. Not before.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125291 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:11 am to
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At least that is the LMPD yarn. Jamarcus Glover was a offered July plea deal if he would implicate Breonna Taylor as part of 'organized crime syndicate'


Yikes. That’s a bad look.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:13 am to
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Taylor is the only case I’ve seen so far that I agree was unwarranted police action.

I do not agree at all with No-knock warrants.



The cops knocked.
They weren't asleep in their beds.
The boyfriend fired the first shot and hit a police officer.
They weren't at the wrong house.

Learn the details before you decide. This is one of the biggest cases that the media doesn't give the facts about.


LINK
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125291 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:20 am to
That wasn’t a very impressive debunking.

“She was shot 8 times!”

False. She was only shot 5 times.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:28 am to
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After they broke in unannounced and into the wrong apartment to boot...


This is fake news
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:43 am to
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That wasn’t a very impressive debunking


Facts normally don't impress people who have a fake narrative to push.

The cops KNOCKED! Both people inside yelled "Who is it?"

The boyfriend shot at the cops FIRST!!!!!

You shoot at the cops, expect them to unload their clip into your face.

They weren't at the wrong house.

It's unfortunate what happened, but crime doesn't pay.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125291 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:54 am to
I don’t have a fake narrative to push.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94742 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 6:58 am to
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philandro castille?



Which is a more cut and dried case of a twitchy, "too nervous to be a cop" situation being lethal for a law abiding gun owner.

And your point is well taken about the "boy who cried racism" issue with BLM championing terrible examples - Mike Brown, Alton Sterling, etc.

What about more nuanced cases like Walter Scott? That was a situation where the decedent:

1. Ran from the police,

2. Fought with the cop for his Taser,

3. Got killed running away, shot in the back

All the force used was justified until it wasn't.

But I can tell you what is wasn't. It wasn't racism.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62597 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:21 am to
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Really? Wouldn't it make more sense to NOT escalate what is usually a drug warrant into a potentially deadly situation? Especially given that mistakes can and have been made?


No. It doesn't make sense to turn around and go home simply because a criminal doesn't answer the door. In no situation does that make sense.

Your rant about the war on drugs is completely irrelevant to what should happen when serving an arrest warrant.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:22 am to
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Which is a more cut and dried case of a twitchy, "too nervous to be a cop" situation being lethal for a law abiding gun owner.


Yes, some people aren't cut out for it.

Look, nothing is 100% flawless. Nothing ever can or will be. There is a ton of collateral damage that comes with the policing of our community. One example is that innocent bystanders often get hurt when police pursue suspects in vehicles. That doesn't mean we should defund the police and stop protecting our neighborhoods. There is going to be some negative results sometimes, but the greater good far outweighs the bad. It's not racism, it's the law of averages. Everything in life has a positive and negative side to it.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:25 am to
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The cops knocked.
Yes, they beat on the door in the middle of the night, without ever announcing that they were police. Yes, the cops CLAIM that they did announce themselves. Everyone else in the vicinity says they did not.
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They weren't asleep in their beds.
Boyfriend Walker says they were. The cops shot the only other person with personal knowledge
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The boyfriend fired the first shot and hit a police officer.
Someone NOT in a pokice uniform breaks down MY door and runs into MY home with a drawn weapon, I am shooting his arse, too.
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They weren't at the wrong house.
That depends upon how we defined the term “wrong.” Yes, it was the house/residence listed on the warrant, but it was also a house/residence that had absolutely no relationship whatsoever to the crime being investigated. Law-enforcement had already investigated whether “suspicious mail” was being sent to that address, and the Postal Service had affirnatively-refuted that assertion.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39983 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:38 am to
Yeah there was an article posted here with more info and that was in it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:43 am to
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But I can tell you what is wasn't. It wasn't racism.



This is the biggest issue. Stop calling all these incidents racism when it is incredibly clear that race has nothing to do with it.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24089 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:57 am to
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That depends upon how we defined the term “wrong.” Yes, it was the house/residence listed on the warrant, but it was also a house/residence that had absolutely no relationship whatsoever to the crime being investigated. Law-enforcement had already investigated whether “suspicious mail” was being sent to that address, and the Postal Service had affirnatively-refuted that assertion.


Sounds like a judge should be impeached/recalled/disbarred
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24089 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:02 am to
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Someone NOT in a pokice uniform breaks down MY door and runs into MY home with a drawn weapon, I am shooting his arse, too.


Why breaking down doors without giving the person inside opportunity to let you in when there is no imminent threat of life is terrible policy. No knock or knock, “cops!” Break down door are almost equally bad.

It places two people Acting within their rights or responsibilities with the knowledge they have at the time on a collision course for violence.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:08 am to
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Yep... Except its already been proven that she was running a crackhouse with her boyfriend...


Taylor’s poor choice in her boyfriend does not justify police barging into her residence in dark of the night and executing her. Though Taylor dated a scumbag, she didn’t actually run a crackhouse.

What the documents linked above demonstrate is that Taylor was aware that Glover was a drug dealer and called Glover multiple times while he was jailed for another infraction. Glover also gave Taylor’s address as his own in conducting his banking transactions and used Taylor’s car while conducting his drug business.

Now, does all this mean she was a charter member of the ‘dindu nothin’ club? No: Taylor dated a known drug dealer and presumably profited in some way from that relationship.

The full story behind the people shot by the police in these instances is rarely one of a sainted individual. Yet these dynamic unannounced forced-entry raids should only be used in the most extreme of circumstances, such as apprehending a violent fugitive or a raiding the bomb-making lair of a terrorist.



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