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Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:21 pm to goatmilker
quote:Christian numbers and presence in Israel have drastically decreased since modern day Israelis have taken over as opposed to when Muslims controlled the area.
We are told that our Christian relics and the Holy Land itself are at risk.
Levin can cope and seethe all he wants, the cat ain't going back in the bag.
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We have been fed a huge bag of propaganda the last 50 years concerning the Christian faith and the latest occupiers of the holy lands.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:21 pm to GumboPot
What’s wrong with MAGA Mr. Levin?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:28 pm to goatmilker
To add to that, it's just a place. The place has no deep meaning. It has no deep reverence. It is just rock and stone. It's the same reason why Jesus never built a church. It's antithetical for Christians to lay claim to holy relics and places when that is at its root, idolatry. The message is the prevailing wisdom. The place in which Jesus died or did this or blah blah blah, it doesn't matter where it happened. So why protect with such ferocity rock and stone?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:39 pm to Richleau
Exactly. If the ME disappeared tomorrow my faith stands the same.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:44 pm to goatmilker
Exactly. So why do we care?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:53 pm to goatmilker
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Exactly. If the ME disappeared tomorrow my faith stands the same.
How? That would destroy most people of faith. (Assuming you're talking about something like that area falling into the sea or something)
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:59 pm to JoeHackett
He's talking about the places the events in the bible took place. Not the people who live there.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:59 pm to Richleau
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He's talking about the places the events in the bible took place. Not the people who live there.
That's what I was talking about. The land falling into the sea. That would destroy most people's faith.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:31 pm to JoeHackett
Christian faith based on geography?
I must be a heretic lol
I must be a heretic lol
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:36 pm to GumboPot
Mark posting in between making Pub subs
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:38 pm to goatmilker
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Christian faith based on geography?
I must be a heretic lol
I wouldn't say a heretic. God promised that land specifically to Abraham and his descendants forever. If that land ceased to exist, it wouldn't go over well with believers.
That's why it isn't treated by Christians as just land or a bunch of rocks. But the only place on Earth that God gave away.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:41 pm to SirWinston
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I want Ben or Mark or Dave Rubin to either address the criticisms of Tucker Carlson or to appear on his show for an intelligent conversation. Taking clips of Tucker Carlson out of context and running them on a loop is not honest debate. Its what the MSM has tried to do to Trump. It wont work.
There has been a standing offer from Shapiro to Qatarlson to debate. Tucker would rather play footsie with the gay Mexican and the fake historian
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:42 pm to cajunangelle
I think this might be the first issue that you and I disagree on in like 9 years
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:43 pm to JoeHackett
Where in the bible does it say forever? Further, you are missing Paul's interpretation in Galatians, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Stop living in the Old testament and the covenants inherent. Christ died on the cross to wash away the old sacrifices for a reason. Jews do not believe in Christ the savior so Paul's interpretation would be that land is not of Abraham's seed, the followers of Christ.
And again in Romans, "It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith."
Stop living in the Old testament and the covenants inherent. Christ died on the cross to wash away the old sacrifices for a reason. Jews do not believe in Christ the savior so Paul's interpretation would be that land is not of Abraham's seed, the followers of Christ.
And again in Romans, "It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith."
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:44 pm to jlnoles79
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There has been a standing offer from Shapiro to Qatarlson to debate. Tucker would rather play footsie with the gay Mexican and the fake historian
Is this true? My impression has been the opposite.
ETA: this is what AI says
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Reports indicate that Ben Shapiro has not offered to debate or talk to Tucker Carlson; in fact, he has publicly and heckin' sharply criticised him for interviewing white nationalist Nick Fuentes. Shapiro titled a podcast "Tucker Carlson Sabotages America," calling him an "intellectual coward" and a "terrible friend."
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:46 pm to JoeHackett
Abraham needs his money back.
How many years in the last 2 000 has the family controlled it?
How many years in the last 2 000 has the family controlled it?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:51 pm to Richleau
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Stop living in the Old testament and the covenants inherent.
Why? God made a promise, forever. I believe that God honors his promises, forever. Not forever until something else happens.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:53 pm to JoeHackett
Again, where in Genesis does it say forever? Again, you are missing the New Testament. The land promise was fulfilled and Paul and Stephen go beyond that promise to say that its not the land that matters, but what it eventually brought, Jesus' final sacrifice to wash away our sins. The real purpose of the promise to Abraham was the coming of the Kingdom of God in Christ. The promise was already fulfilled as you read in Joshua and Kings and Nehemiah. Now read Acts and Hebrews and Romans and Galatians.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:59 pm to Richleau
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