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Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:30 pm to Indefatigable
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China is not threatened in any way by Hong Kong’s protests. Hong Kong’s pseudo-joy ride will be over in 2047
Chairman Xi wont be alive then, and Hong Kong was sucking up all the news hysteria . . . .
until COVID19 came along. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:30 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
quote:So China’s master plan was to cripple their own economy in the short term, limit their future negotiating power with respect to trade and industry in the long-term, and bring shame to their country?
Man made and released on purpose. Delayed notice gave time for many infected to travel to US.
If man-made, i’d lean toward this being an accidental leak. If natural, it makes sense considering their filthy food policies and sanitation issues.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:36 pm to Pecker
I’m not saying if it’s release is accidental or not. I’m just saying that it seems more likely from that article that it’s man made. But at the same time why the hell are you creating shite like that in the first place?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:38 pm to Pecker
I am not sure of the viral origins, natural vs military bioweapon vs pure research engineering.
It bears repeating though, that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is China's first and only BSL-4 (top class biosafety level laboratory).
This is a fact.
It bears repeating though, that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is China's first and only BSL-4 (top class biosafety level laboratory).
This is a fact.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:38 pm to RobbBobb
They don’t play the short game. And never have.
There is absolutely zero threat to Xi or the CCP from Hong Kong protests. They could take the island right now and kill everyone who lives there and there is not one thing any nation or organization on earth would do about it. They know that, and so do we
There is absolutely zero threat to Xi or the CCP from Hong Kong protests. They could take the island right now and kill everyone who lives there and there is not one thing any nation or organization on earth would do about it. They know that, and so do we
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:41 pm to Indefatigable
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Find another motive for your theory, because that is not it.
Hard to guess at motives. But there's a shitload of "evidence" (loosely used) that suggests they did release the virus.
Hell, I wrote up a thread about this just the other night. Of course the usual suspects here roundly decried it as bullshite, fake news, but there was an interview released by Steve Bannon where he was talking with some Chinese expat type about this. They didn't name the coronavirus by name as this was before the outbreak. But the dude is a Chinese oligarch turned Chinese spy hunter here in the US. He claimed his contacts in Beijing were being told to get the hell out of Dodge and make for the US with a long term plan. The reason, he said, was there was soon to be mass chaos unleashed in China and that it was about the Hong Kong situation, which he says they claim they had lost control of. Donald Trump's steel tarrifs played a role in it all too. He said they had totally miscalculated the entire situation (Hong Kong / tarrifs) and that it had grown beyond their control. And he alleges they intended to "bury" 1.2 billion people over it.
You say the Hong Kong situation isn't a proper motive. Well I say I don't know what their damn motive was, but it looks an awful lot like they did this intentionally.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:43 pm to Indefatigable
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They know that
No, they are actually afraid of Trump
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:43 pm to Apollyon
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It bears repeating though, that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is China's first and only BSL-4 (top class biosafety level laboratory).
Not only that, but you can get on Google Earth and see that the lab is literally right across the river from where the seafood market they're declaring Ground Zero to be.
Also, awhile back now I wrote up a thread about a Harvard biology professor who had two Chinese spies working with him for years. Dude was taking money on the side from China and the reason was he had been contracted by them to set up a biolab in Wuhan. He got caught smuggling vials out of the US and has been arrested.
2+2=4.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:45 pm to Pecker
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If man-made, i’d lean toward this being an accidental leak.
It was meant for Hong Kong. A vile must have broken on the way
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:46 pm to FlexDawg
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But at the same time why the hell are you creating shite like that in the first place?
To study it, and possible vectors of treating it. If the key difference between this virus and other Corona strains is a particular class of protein, knowing all the details about that protein becomes important.
One of my professors worked with catagory A pathogens when he was in grad school. There are BSL 4 labs all around the US and the world, including the one in Wuhan. Any pathogen from these labs would cause serious problems for the population at large.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:53 pm to Indefatigable
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Ok, let’s for a second just assume it was the Chinese. This would never ever be their reason and it’s utterly senseless to think otherwise.
You might be the first person I've ever seen, who would say this. If you've been paying attention to China, in the least, then you know that they will murder their people for ANY reason. And as it pertains to the Hong Kong protesters, it's not the twitter reaction that the Chinese government cares about. It's "insubordination". Or have you never heard of a dictatorship and how that works? They'll take an economic hit, to keep their people in line.
I personally think that is only part of the reason. As I said earlier in this thread, I think China was working with the DNC on this from the beginning, to cause panic and crash OUR economy, so that they could blame it on Trump. Trump is the grim reaper for all of these communist dictatorships. They see their people becoming emboldened, because they see that America finally has a president who is fighting corruption.
History has shown that dictatorships aren't overthrown until America gets involved. We are HEAVILY involved in foreign affairs, perhaps more so now than ever, and that is a HUGE problem for a place like China. They have tons of motive.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:54 pm to FlexDawg
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Man made and released on purpose
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I’m not saying if it’s release is accidental or not.
Oh
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:55 pm to crazy4lsu
Apparently they keep 1,500 of these types of pathogens in that lab.
It's fricking crazy. It's an awful lot of risk keeping things like that locked in buildings. All it takes is one crazy arse motherfricker who is willing to do what it takes to get one of those things outside containment. And containment itself can fail. Nothing lasts forever.
It's fricking crazy. It's an awful lot of risk keeping things like that locked in buildings. All it takes is one crazy arse motherfricker who is willing to do what it takes to get one of those things outside containment. And containment itself can fail. Nothing lasts forever.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:56 pm to RobbBobb
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No, they are actually afraid of Trump
Trump is not sending the American military to assist Hong Kong. 0.0%
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:59 pm to Indefatigable
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Trump is not sending the American military to assist Hong Kong. 0.0%
Of course not. He decided to use economics against them.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:59 pm to Pecker
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Man made and released on purpose
That’s not my quote
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:00 pm to Metaloctopus
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They'll take an economic hit, to keep their people in line.
They are already in line. Hong Kong has no leverage. If the CCP has to crack down to keep control, they will, with no repercussion whatsoever outside of Twitter.
Does China pretend to be tolerant and gives HK a long leash to appease the west? Yes? But if it were every truly an issue they’d take everything by force without thinking.
Rolling the tanks into Kowloon makes far more sense than releasing a virus into your interior and tanking your economy.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:02 pm to Indefatigable
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? But if it were every truly an issue they’d take everything by force without thinking.
Rolling the tanks into Kowloon makes far more sense than releasing a virus into your interior and tanking your economy.
You say all this, but they didn't do it, did they? Protests stopped, didn't they?
You're speculating just as much as anyone else is.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:03 pm to FlexDawg
It is a definite probability but, FedGov would never reveal that China has successfully launched a biological warfare agent on the vaunted USA.
USA must be nice to Master China or . . . USA: NO anti-biotic for YOU !!

USA must be nice to Master China or . . . USA: NO anti-biotic for YOU !!
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