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re: This cartoon nails the hypocrisy

Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:34 pm to
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I'm just pointing out hypocrisy in a thread about hypocrisy.


Well, you should be able to clearly see. But you don't. You have to serve the gay community under threat of legal action, you just dont have to serve the flag. Because the right to tasty treats from private businesses is guaranteed in the bill of rights.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:34 pm to
That's a horrible analogy and the two situations are completely different.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49474 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:34 pm to
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"frick the NFL. These players should all be fired."

That is stupid.

People are saying that the Owners should fire anyone who doesn't stand, or they will not watch their games.

The analogy would be that if the baker doesn't make the homo cakes, people could refuse to do business with them.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:35 pm to
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It's an Apple's to oranges example.


No it isn't.

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Calling for someone to be fired isn't in the same realm as the courts being involved and forcing someone.


Good thing I didn't say that it was, then.

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I thought you were somewhat itelligent...maybe you're not.

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itelligent




Thank you.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49474 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:36 pm to
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I'm just pointing out hypocrisy in a thread about hypocrisy.

No - no you are not.

Your own hypocrisy is being revealed by the flawed 'analogy' you presented.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:37 pm to
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That is stupid.


It's completely accurate. I'll save you some time. I don't care if you agree.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:38 pm to
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you just dont have to serve the flag.


Do you think we should?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:39 pm to
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That's a horrible analogy and the two situations are completely different.


Finally.

Jesus.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21095 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:39 pm to
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I doubt that a single one of the players or their supporters could even vaguely explain what 1st amendment protection of speech actually means.


Sadly you are most likely correct...it is all emotion based knee jerk crap so for them to grasp basic civics and articulate an intelligent sounding explanation on how this has anything to do with freedom of speech vs what Trump said....good luck with trying to find one of these player protesters who can do that.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 5:49 pm
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30152 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:39 pm to
He is just an idiot.

Swung and missed bigly in this thread.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82151 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:40 pm to
It does have the false premise of, "have to chose to take a job"

Neither the player or the baker are forced to take any job.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:40 pm to
The difference is as to who is doing the enforcing of the societal contract. One is the govt, the other is the owners of the business.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30152 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:41 pm to
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The difference is as to who is doing the enforcing of the societal contract. One is the govt, the other is the owners of the business.


"Finally"
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:42 pm to
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He is just an idiot.

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itelligent
Posted by kilo
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Member since Oct 2011
30152 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:44 pm to
I made a mistake typing on my phone. Mea culpa.

You completely missed on your original response.

I'm going to go with you're an idiot and I have fat fingers.

Posted by TrueTiger
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82151 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:44 pm to
yes,

if the player refused to to his job, he loses money under a contract that he voluntarily agreed to

the baker doesn't voluntarily contract but rather seeks to avoid entering into a contract
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:45 pm to
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You completely missed on your original response.


If you didn't understand the point, you could've just asked me to explain it to you.

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you're an idiot

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itelligent
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30152 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:46 pm to
You are being outed for the fool you are.

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21095 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:46 pm to
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It's not a free speech issue and I don't know why people keep saying this. The first amendment states that government shall not abridge people's rights to certain speech. There is no government entity stopping these players from doing anything. In fact, even thieir employer, the NFL isn't stopping them. This is not a free speech issue so stop saying it is!


Exactly...this has ZERO to do with freedom of speech! Zilch! At no point have any of these faux cause protesters been under threat of criminal repercussions for their childish displays. Furthermore, the NFL isn't even following their own rules about player conduct when it comes to the anthem and their own rule book...of course if you are a player and want to show support for the Dallas PD or if you are a Tom Brady type and want to deflate a ball by a couple of PSI which proved no competitive advantage anyway, well here comes the hammer of your backside. Disrespect the anthem/flag and all they stand for however, go for it!!!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61375 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:48 pm to
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Do you think we should?
No, I also dont think a Muslim grocer would or should be forced to carry pork for me to purchase, the same as I dont think a Christian baker should be forced to bake for gay weddings.

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