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re: Things more/equally likely to kill you than a cop:

Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:12 pm to
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And those 3 are representative of what number of police/ citizen interactions of those years?

Th profession of Law Enforcement carries with it so much responsibility and authority over citizens that they don’t get to make mistakes. As it stands now they’re held to a lower standard when they should be held to a higher one.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:13 pm to
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That it's an incredibly rare occurrence.



Once is more than enough.

now you see what BLM is saying?
Posted by Aristo
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:14 pm to
EBRSO uses SWAT at least once a week, haven't seen them in the news lately for blunders.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:15 pm to
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You're moving the goalposts from general police actions to a minor handful out of hundreds of millions of civilian contacts with police.


No, I'm not. It's always been my contention that these cases are unacceptable. Backward American culture accepts death of an innocent as the price they'll pay for an orderly society.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:15 pm to
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EBRSO uses SWAT at least once a week, haven't seen them in the news lately for blunders.


SWAT is used to much. Need to take all their fricking cool guy gear away and make them be real cops
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:16 pm to
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now you see what BLM is saying?


Roger doesn’t racially restrict the cause like BLM.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:16 pm to
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That it's an incredibly rare occurrence.



Once is more than enough.

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now you see what BLM is saying?


Their narrative is fricked up. It distracts from the real problem.

They're as much of the problem as the bootlickers.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Roger doesn’t racially restrict the cause like BLM.


the reforms BLM push for will help all Americans of all races
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:22 pm to
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SWAT is used to much. Need to take all their fricking cool guy gear away and make them be real cops


They are mostly used to arrest violent offenders who are a risk to the rest of the population, at least in EBR, now for the rest of the country I have no idea.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:25 pm to
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Th profession of Law Enforcement carries with it so much responsibility and authority over citizens that they don’t get to make mistakes. As it stands now they’re held to a lower standard when they should be held to a higher one.

This is one of the most naively simplistic statements aimed at addressing the incredibly complex potential of spontaneous actions to unpredictable situations involving unknown personalities, I've read in a while.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:27 pm to
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now you see what BLM is saying?

I do. They are both full of shite and childishly naive.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:27 pm to
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incredibly complex potential of spontaneous actions to unpredictable situations involving unknown personalities
Oh for fricks sake use more buzzwords why don’t you.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:28 pm to
Phycicians.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260237 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:29 pm to
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the reforms BLM push for will help all Americans of all races



No, it obscures the problem for all races.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:31 pm to
Liberals!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:31 pm to
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No, I'm not. It's always been my contention that these cases are unacceptable.


What do you suggest be the solution to you "zero tolerance" standard?

I wonder how many police have been killed by giving a suspect the benefit of the doubt? Shouldn't your "zero tolerance" standard also apply to the public at large?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
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SWAT is used to much. Need to take all their fricking cool guy gear away and make them be real cops

Thats just dumb.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260237 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
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What do you suggest be the solution to you "zero tolerance" standard?


Probably a less militarized and antagonistic relationship to the general public, which has been caused directly by the war on drugs.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Shouldn't your "zero tolerance" standard also apply to the public at large?
Uhh, it does. If I shoot a guy for trying to pull up his pants after I’ve threatened to kill him I’m going to jail.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Oh for fricks sake use more buzzwords why don’t you.


Really?...I thought I used enough??

Now care to address your simplistic concepts of what constitute reality?
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