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re: They have to go back.....wayyyyyyy back
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:36 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:36 am to AggieHank86
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Let’s not derail. Start a thread.
??YOU derailed the thread by bringing up "ending the drug war"
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:55 am to AggieHank86
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I am saying that it is a pointless waste of money and other resources to fly them all the way to Jalisco,
We need to cut a deal with Liberia to take them, offer them 5 grand per resettled person, let their arse try to get back from there.
MAGA (Make Africa Great Again)
And Hank you are well aware the cost of the tickets are a drop in the bucket we spend on this so that is an odd position to take.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:02 pm to cave canem
quote:Why?
Hank you are well aware the cost of the tickets are a drop in the bucket we spend on this so that is an odd position to take.
Let’s take some ridiculous numbers just to illustrate the point.
We can dump a detainee two miles across the Rio Grande at a cost of $10 per person, with a 90% likelihood that he will try again the cross the border within 30 days.
Or we can spend $50,000 per detainee, shipping them so far that we reduce the likelihood of another try all the way down to 80%.
ALL other things being equal (because this decision has ZERO bearing upon any other expenditure for border control), was that an intelligent net expenditure of $49,990.00?
Now, let’s say that the real costs are $25 per head for a dump in Tamaulipas versus $500 per head for a flight to Jalisco, with the same decrease in probability. Does that 10% decrease justify the net expenditure of $475 per head?
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:08 pm to AggieHank86
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with a 90% likelihood that he will try again the cross the border within 30 days.
How much do you guess a wall would cut that likelihood?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:08 pm to saints5021
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Does Mexico have any hard to reach islands?
Isla Guadalupe is about 200 miles off of the western coast and is a 24 hour boat ride (I’ve done it).
It’s also the best place on earth (that we know of) to observe great white sharks.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:11 pm to AggieHank86
Let's just sell them to the Chinese and let them harvest their organs then, ought to be able to raise a bit of cash as well.
All BS aside dumping them off at the border is fruitless as they will be back in 24 hours, we should be loading them up on USAF flights and sending them to Mexico s Southern border.
All BS aside dumping them off at the border is fruitless as they will be back in 24 hours, we should be loading them up on USAF flights and sending them to Mexico s Southern border.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:13 pm to Dale51
quote:This thread is not ABOUT a Wall.
How much do you guess a wall would cut that likelihood?
But assume we did have a Wall. The likelihood of a successful crossing would be constant, regardless of whether we dropped our captures a mile across the river in Tamaulipas or 1000 miles further south.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:13 pm to cave canem
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All BS aside dumping them off at the border is fruitless as they will be back in 24 hours,
Would a 20 foot wall slow down that ability?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:17 pm to cave canem
quote:Which would delay the next attempt by ... what ... 72 hours? 96?
All BS aside dumping them off at the border is fruitless as they will be back in 24 hours, we should be loading them up on USAF flights and sending them to Mexico s Southern border.
Is a 96-hour delay adequate justification for a net expenditure of (for example) $475 per head?
THAT is the obvious question raised by the OP.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:17 pm to AggieHank86
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The likelihood of a successful crossing would be constant
What are you basing that claim on?
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This thread is not ABOUT a Wall.
This thread IS about measures that would slow illegal criminal aliens from easily reentering the country, sooo...
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:20 pm to AggieHank86
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Which would delay the next attempt by ... what ... 72 hours? 96?
This is nonsense. How many times can one of these illegal criminal aliens cough up 5k to get back in?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:25 pm to Wtodd
It would be worth it fly the Ms to Panama and then release them at the absolute southern end of Mexico. The OTMs? We should bring them to the Falkland Islands.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:25 pm to Dale51
quote:The cost of hiring a second coyote is NOT affected by whether we dumped our captures across the river in Acuña versus flying them to Antarctica.quote:This is nonsense. How many times can one of these illegal criminal aliens cough up 5k to get back in?
Which would delay the next attempt by ... what ... 72 hours? 96?
The cost of hiring that coyote is a CONSTANT.
The cost of hiring the coyote is thus NOT a variable in the equation to determine where to dump them.
No one is this stupid, so I must now assume that you are simply feigning ignorance.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:26 pm to AggieHank86
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Is a 96-hour delay adequate justification for a net expenditure of (for example) $475 per head?
You've made me reconsider. Now that I think about it, let's bring all of them to the Falkland Islands.
Or the Horn of Africa.
They might head back, but that's going to take awhile.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:28 pm to Dale51
quote:Because the second coyote does not give one small damn whether José was yesterday in Tucson or in Jalisco. The cost to hire that second coyote is the same.quote:What are you basing that claim on?
The likelihood of a successful crossing would be constant
Unless you can find a coyote who guarantees a successful crossing, but only allows you to redeem on your warranty if you contact him within 24-hours.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:30 pm to AggieHank86
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The cost of hiring a second coyote is NOT affected by whether we dumped our captures across the river in Acuña versus flying them to Antarctica.
Right over your head.
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The cost of hiring that coyote is a CONSTANT.
How do you know this?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:31 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Would not demand rise, thus driving up the cost?
The cost to hire that second coyote is the same.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:32 pm to AggieHank86
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Because the second coyote does not give one small damn whether José was yesterday in Tucson or in Jalisco. The cost to hire that second coyote is the same.
You haven't explained how you know this to be true, you just restated your claim using slightly different words.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:33 pm to Dale51
quote:As I said above, from speaking with people who USE coyotes.quote:How do you know this?
The cost of hiring that coyote is a CONSTANT.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:37 pm to AggieHank86
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As I said above, from speaking with people who USE coyotes.
You can't be serious.
How many of these people form your base to generalize about all of them?
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 1:32 pm
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