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"There's as Much to Learn From Trump's Success as His Disgrace" Gerald Baker WSJ
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:43 pm
Baker is one of the most consistent conservative columnist in the country. His opinion piece today is a good one but most here will not like it because it has some criticism of the man they consider perfect and beyond criticism.
It is a behind a pay wall so I will copy large exerts. LINK
Most of you will not find offense in that but some of you are like snowflakes and take offense at most anything that is not absolutely Trump adoration.
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It is a behind a pay wall so I will copy large exerts. LINK
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The best argument for Donald Trump’s presidency was never about the man himself. It was about the people who voted for him.
It wasn’t really about what he would do for taxes, immigration or the federal judiciary. He did many needed things on those fronts for sure, but any clever Republican politician with a good pollster could have come up with that agenda. It wasn’t about his vaunted business experience and how he might inject a little necessary private-sector sense into a stultified bureaucracy. It certainly wasn’t about his penchant for conversation-dominating social-media expostulations—polls have indicated a consistent popular distaste for them.
The best argument for Donald Trump was that he led and gave voice to millions of Americans who had been leaderless and voiceless for decades. The secret people, as a British poet once described his similarly disdained countrymen—smiled at, paid, passed over. The deplorables. The men and women whom the media, entertainment and corporate human resources types never meet in their local Whole Foods but deride as bigots and brutish neanderthals.
People who had voted for Republicans and Democrats and had an increasingly hard time telling the difference. People who had voted for a “compassionate conservative,” who led the nation into a catastrophic and futile war. People who had voted for the nation’s first African-American president, a man promising hope and change but delivering hope mostly for those who had plenty of it already and change for few of those who really needed it.
These were Americans left behind by, or alarmed by, the unforgiving juggernaut of “progress” hailed by our political, business and cultural leaders as the glorious arc of history.
Economic progress that saw the logic of global supply chains and free labor movement render millions of American workers too expensive to employ, condemning their communities to despair. Technological progress that atomized society, turning people into redundant ex-employees, doom-scrolling screen junkies, and datasets for clever algorithms to target. Cultural progress that, in the space of a decade, told people that beliefs they had held dear all their lives were now immoral and needed to be expunged from schools, workplaces, lives.
People who had grown up believing their country, for all its faults, was decent and good and had been a unique force for human freedom were now told that it had always been the nerve center of oppression, fit only for a re-education of reactionary minds.
Donald Trump stood for those people, understood them—and, quite uniquely among politicians, actually liked them. It’s not hard to understand why they liked him. Of course there were those who harbored darker beliefs and more malign intent. But if you think they number more than a small fraction of the 74 million who voted for him a second time last year then perhaps it’s you who needs education about what your country is like.
Most of you will not find offense in that but some of you are like snowflakes and take offense at most anything that is not absolutely Trump adoration.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:46 pm to JDGTiger
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In short, President Trump’s greatest achievement will have been the elevation of the legitimate concerns of perhaps half the U.S. population, an improbable, physics-defying reversal of the political tides that had eroded much American self-confidence in the preceding generation.
But leadership involves more than simply articulating the fears and aspirations of those who need leading. People follow leaders, heed their words, absorb their example. Leaders not only reflect the ideals of the led; they reflect back to them the values by which the country should be governed. By this leadership standard Mr. Trump must be judged too.
The damage his unpardonable behavior—throughout his presidency, but especially since the election—has done to the bonds that hold a fragile nation together is incalculable. His refusal to accept defeat, and the steadily escalating insistence to his followers that they should never accept it, is for many a defining conclusion that bears testimony to his unfit character and invalidates whatever other argument can be made for his presidency.
There is much to this. The loss of civic trust from his promotion of ever-larger falsehoods has widened, rather than helped close, the divide, risking further alienation from constitutional politics of those who voted for him and—not incidentally—paving the way for a potential undoing of much of what he did achieve.
The last two paragraphs will not sit well here.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:49 pm to JDGTiger
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It certainly wasn’t about his penchant for conversation-dominating social-media expostulations—polls have indicated a consistent popular distaste for them.
bullshite. That’s just the media trying to manipulate the populous.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:51 pm to JDGTiger
Everything was great until the establishment went on an unrelenting push to get their power back in the last year. The media was their tool.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:54 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Nearly half of respondents, 46 percent, in a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll say that, yes, Trump’s Twitter use hurts his bid for reelection — more than twice the number who say his direct-to-voters Twitter account is an asset.
Seven in 10 respondents said Trump uses Twitter too much, and 14 percent said he uses it the right amount. There were actually a few respondents, 1 percent, who said Trump doesn’t tweet enough.
Views of Trump’s Twitter use have remained consistent — and mostly negative — throughout his presidency. A year ago, 72 percent of voters said in a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll that Trump tweets too much. And in June 2017, 68 percent said Trump tweets too much.
He would have been re-elected if he had gone into the basement like Biden without Twitter in January.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:06 pm to JDGTiger
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He would have been re-elected if he had gone into the basement like Biden without Twitter in January.
While I often found Trump's tweets cringeworthy, what sealed his fate was states unilaterally changing election laws and universal mail in ballots.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:13 pm to JDGTiger
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He did many needed things on those fronts for sure, but any clever Republican politician with a good pollster could have come up with that agenda.
Correct. Anyone could come up with this agenda. But no one would. Why?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:14 pm to JDGTiger
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The damage his unpardonable behavior—throughout his presidency, but especially since the election—has done to the bonds that hold a fragile nation together is incalculable. His refusal to accept defeat, and the steadily escalating insistence to his followers that they should never accept it, is for many a defining conclusion that bears testimony to his unfit character and invalidates whatever other argument can be made for his presidency.
Naw. The non-stop gaslighting of the entire American public by the news media for an entire year is the story of 2020.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:15 pm to the808bass
Because his agenda took money out of the warmongers and they couldn’t control Trump
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:21 pm to JDGTiger
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JDGTiger
Number of Posts: 410
Registered on: 10/24/2020
Oh look, another “conservative”.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:10 am to JDGTiger
I mean, the lesson is that Populism does stand a chance in America.In order for the GOP to win, the Party has to go back, change platforms, and then challenge in the next election. It's possible that the GOP can regain both the Senate and House next election, so long as the candidates are populist. The GOP WON seats in the House despite Trump losing. Trump lost because of his toxic personality and lots of people were turned off from that (inb4 election was stolen). So now the next Republican presidential candidate will be Trumpist but have 0% of the ego of Trump because it's shown to work.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:59 am to JDGTiger
Hence worst president ever. He earned that title
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:02 am to daydranking
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This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 1:59 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:07 am to RaimondGPville
Just read through your posts. You registered after the election and 100% of your posts are anti trump.
Please, go hang yourself.
Please, go hang yourself.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:34 am to RaimondGPville
Dumbest mfer ever. You earned that title.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:49 am to JDGTiger
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Most of you will not find offense in that but some of you are like snowflakes and take offense at most anything that is not absolutely Trump adoration.
Trite and lazy statement from the ignorant and poorly educated. Projection and complete lack of self awareness at best, and outright lies at worst.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 5:02 am to JDGTiger
A lot of truth in the article, but this
needed to be expounded on instead of glossed over. Trump exposed DC for what it is: a uniparty out to enrich only themselves.
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People who had voted for Republicans and Democrats and had an increasingly hard time telling the difference.
needed to be expounded on instead of glossed over. Trump exposed DC for what it is: a uniparty out to enrich only themselves.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 5:27 am to JDGTiger
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especially since the election—has done to the bonds that hold a fragile nation together is incalculable. His refusal to accept defeat,
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The loss of civic trust from his promotion of ever-larger falsehoods has widened, rather than helped close, the divide
Couldn’t the same be said for the Muh Russia collusion hoax?
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 5:29 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 6:40 am to JDGTiger
Trump's situation after Covid hit and mail-in ballots became the go to Dem tactic was analogous to a QB needing to run back a kickoff to win the game with 3 seconds left on the clock with insufficient blocking.
Translation: the odds were against him in almost every aspect of the election.
Translation: the odds were against him in almost every aspect of the election.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:19 am to TomBuchanan
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So you do or don't think the election was stolen?
I don't think it was stolen any more than any other election in US history.
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