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There needs to be a constitutional Amendment limiting the duration of Emergency powers
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:26 am
Frankly, I don't know how we overlooked this problem in the first place. I guess that's what happens when you forget that Politicians are scum.
But, by definition, Emergency powers are for Emergencies and they exist because you need some mechanism for leaders to be able to act where timeliness makes legislating it untenable.
In no universe does that definition describe a two year fricking window. Honestly, I'm stunned we haven't run into this problem before now that we see how easily misused it is.
In my view, Emergency powers should have no more than 30 days duration that CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be extended unless by legislative act and then, MUST be renewed every 30 days.
But, by definition, Emergency powers are for Emergencies and they exist because you need some mechanism for leaders to be able to act where timeliness makes legislating it untenable.
In no universe does that definition describe a two year fricking window. Honestly, I'm stunned we haven't run into this problem before now that we see how easily misused it is.
In my view, Emergency powers should have no more than 30 days duration that CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be extended unless by legislative act and then, MUST be renewed every 30 days.
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Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:30 am to ShortyRob
I agree with you. It's insane that governors/mayors can grant themselves unlimited power under an emergency, and they are the ones who can declare an emergency without any criteria surrounding it and it lasts as long as they want.
In polite society we call that dictatorship.
In polite society we call that dictatorship.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:32 am to ShortyRob
No, we don’t need that. What a lot of us, who are against the mandates, don’t concede is that they were popular with the majority of Americans. If the majority was against them they would have been revoked. The system worked fine; it was the voters who malfunctioned.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:33 am to Penrod
quote:Fine, then pass legislation.
No, we don’t need that. What a lot of us, who are against the mandates, don’t concede is that they were popular with the majority of Americans
quote:LOL, that's not how shite works at all. Come on.
If the majority was against them they would have been revoked
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:33 am to ShortyRob
One of the arguments the left had in the scotus mandate case was it was an emergency health crisis.
Two years into this charade I felt like they were arguing against themselves, but I have common sense
Two years into this charade I felt like they were arguing against themselves, but I have common sense
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:35 am to Thundercles
quote:
I agree with you. It's insane that governors/mayors can grant themselves unlimited power under an emergency, and they are the ones who can declare an emergency without any criteria surrounding it and it lasts as long as they want.
Yes. That's another thing.
IF we're going to have Emergency powers, they can't fricking extend to every Tom Dick and Harry who has been elected to an executive position. ESPECIALLY not to the point where the fricking mayor of some town of 2000 people can say, "yeah, frick you governor, we're keeping our dictatorship"
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:35 am to ksayetiger
quote:Exactly.
One of the arguments the left had in the scotus mandate case was it was an emergency health crisis.
Two years into this charade I felt like they were arguing against themselves, but I have common sense
Every last person in Congress has voiced an opinion.
fricking vote on that shite you spineless monkeys.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:36 am to ksayetiger
quote:Hell, they probably WIN the mandate in court if they'd passed legislation mandating it.
Two years into this charade I felt like they were arguing against themselves, but I have common sense
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:37 am to ShortyRob
“Emergency powers” isn’t in the constitution to begin with.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:38 am to LSU2a
quote:Yeah
“Emergency powers” isn’t in the constitution to begin with.
Left to me, there'd would be no such thing but, I'm willing to compromise.
Frankly, in the year 2022, there's no reason why "emergency" powers should last more than a few days.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:24 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Fine, then pass legislation.
How in the world can you pass legislation making what was popular illegal?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:26 pm to Penrod
quote:Um, my point was, if it's so damned popular, then you pass LEGISLATION for what you want to do. You don't just leave the power in the hands of one person. That's the silly part.
How in the world can you pass legislation making what was popular illegal?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:31 pm to ShortyRob
Each State has to fix their own issues.
It took nearly 2 years for Democrats to finally realize that Jay Inslee can't run for a 4th term and if somehow a Republican wins in 2024, that person can act like an emperor the same way Stupid Jay does.
It took nearly 2 years for Democrats to finally realize that Jay Inslee can't run for a 4th term and if somehow a Republican wins in 2024, that person can act like an emperor the same way Stupid Jay does.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Totalitarians figuring out that they ONLY want themselves to be allowed to be totalitarian is of marginal solace.
It took nearly 2 years for Democrats to finally realize that Jay Inslee can't run for a 4th term and if somehow a Republican wins in 2024, that person can act like an emperor the same way Stupid Jay does.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:17 pm to ShortyRob
I agree. Every year it gets worse and worse. They just keep going further and further abusing powers.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:18 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
In my view, Emergency powers should have no more than 30 days duration that CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be extended unless by legislative act and then, MUST be renewed every 30 days.
This
Posted on 1/23/22 at 2:02 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Yeah Left to me, there'd would be no such thing but, I'm willing to compromise. Frankly, in the year 2022, there's no reason why "emergency" powers should last more than a few days.
I don’t disagree with the fact that it is needed. Ideally instead of letting the judicial branch allow its existence and the executive test the limits constantly we would establish clear parameters for its use in a constitutional amendment. We all know that is a tall order, especially in today’s polarized state.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 2:03 pm
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