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re: There is no hope for ever solving this issue.

Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:55 pm to
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I was and yes.


Oh I know you were, boomer.

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That is the only "institutionalized racism" around since 1980.


It's like a comedy routine I have to read instead of hear.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47958 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:56 pm to
Yes all the time
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17483 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:00 pm to
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I bet it wasn't driving, or walking down the street.


Got damn you are a fricking moron. You got any other excuses why you haven’t succeeded in life?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:02 pm to
Well all that remains to be seen as far as whether Chauvin is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on his charges. But the relevant ingredients that specifically led to where we are now....a video of cop with knee to person's neck; said person allegedly proclaimed he couldn't breathe; said person did indeed stop breathing, for good. Those are the relevant aspects of this matter. The comment about passing money, etc....while fair game for the country to consider in judging Floyd's character, his character is not legally at issue. Ultimate question is, simply, whether Chauvin's knee to back was justified or excessive force as well as was it within bounds of policy. The other main and equally important/relevant question is whether and to what extent the knee to neck caused or contributed to the death.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17483 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:06 pm to
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But almost all republicans are the voice of reason? We all suck


I have had a helluva lot more fruitful conversations with Republicans than a blue check marked Democrat. The Democratic platform is almost 100% based upon identity politics. Most the people I know that are Republicans don’t care about you politics or your skin color as long as you are a good person and have a strong work ethic.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2291 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Ultimate question is, simply, whether Chauvin's knee to back was justified or excessive force as well as was it within bounds of policy. The other main and equally important/relevant question is whether and to what extent the knee to neck caused or contributed to the death.



THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:08 pm to
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She was by no means dumb. In fact she was quite educated. She simply has a world view that is completely foreign to me


Zersetzung.

Break-down, decomposition brainwashing.

In east germany, it is how the stasi orchestrated brainwashing campaigns against political opposition.

Eventually, the target cannot accept objective reality. They will believe only what they are told to believe.

If the state media tells them "The sky is green, the grass is blue", then that is what it is for them.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17483 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:10 pm to
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It's like a comedy routine I have to read instead of hear.


So Affirmative Action isn’t a true example of institutional racism? Can you please provide specific laws that favor whites over minorities?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11250 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:10 pm to
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Do you like oppressive govt, endless laws against everything, police/govt officials who have the power to ruin or even kill you whenever they choose and for whatever reason they see fit? If you don’t, you’ve just discovered common ground with the legit protestors. Y’all disagree on the solution and the cause, but both see the same problem.


You've lost any support you had.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76426 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:12 pm to
It’s not an issue possible of being solved. Black deaths at the hands of cops are already exceedingly rare. But as long as there are cops who are only human, there will be an occasional death by cop.

The rioters and their supporters are just people who want to watch the world burn, blame white people, and latch onto whatever bullshite excuse they can find to justify that.

If any of this was really about the well-being of black Americans, there are way more pressing and important issues they could try to tackle. -
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:13 pm to
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Had a polite conversation last night with a black woman who saw no issues with looting and burning. I tried the reasonable approach of “its outsiders burning the city down” and got the response of well let it burn, their voices needed to be heard. Tried explaining it was white outsiders causing much of the destruction and got the same response. It never occurred to her that it’s easy for her to say let it burn when it’s not her neighborhood being lit on fire. She couldn’t grasp the fact that the people who lived in the communities don’t want their city torched either... Best part was when she started scrolling through Facebook and she showed me video of black residents filming white Antifa trash destroying the city. The light bulb never came on.



She is a dumb bitch who wasn't brought up properly.

Those retards on twitter keep bringing the shite up that people shouldn't care because those places have insurance.

Those are the retards who vote Democrat.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11250 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:15 pm to
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Somehow they’ve let their legitimate grievances be highjacked by white anarchists,


I saw black thugs beating store owners, not antifa trash.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:15 pm to
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Oh I know you were, boomer.



I have never heard a boomer claim to be a Conservative but want a national healthcare plan.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47716 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:19 pm to
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It’s down to people. People is the key word. And people by and large, as we’ve seen these last few days, weeks, and months, fricking suck.

maybe everyone else sucks. No one will ever admit they fricking suck
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155794 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:04 pm to
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have had a helluva lot more fruitful conversations with Republicans than a blue check marked Democrat


Exactly...Probably because they share the same views.

Dems would say the same about other dems
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:06 pm to
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Best part was when she started scrolling through Facebook and she showed me video of black residents filming white Antifa trash destroying the city. The light bulb never came on.



Pride is also a powerful drug

people hate to be wrong...
Posted by TigerBlazer
Member since Aug 2016
836 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:19 pm to
The question I want answered is ‘why didn’t you and the other 3 officers, place the handcuffed man in the patrol car’?

Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:22 pm to
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The question I want answered is ‘why didn’t you and the other 3 officers, place the handcuffed man in the patrol car’?


Should be video, but I can't find it. I've seen video of them walking him to the patrol car, then on the ground, but not what happened in between.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:29 pm to
Yeah that's a good ancillary question. Would seem to go to motive/intent.

What the hell was Chauvin waiting for and looking at? You sometimes see that type of thing if there's a multi-arrestee situation wherein the other available officers are busy or in the process of gaining control over their own arrestee. In that situation Chauvin would sit tight for a short while until the situation's completely under control. Then officers determine which arrestee will go into which vehicle, etc.

None of which was involved, from what I've seen.
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
773 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:58 pm to
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I think we are seeing anger, frustration, despair, and disillusionment that has built over a long time.


I don’t disagree, but why does perpetuating their victim status always seem to be the default solution? Or even the only solution? Because victimhood is exactly the opposite of empowerment. Victims by definition are helpless, oppressed, prisoners of circumstance. They’re being told that they have no responsibility for the situation they’re in — thus no personal agency — and the only way things will get better is if someone else changes the situation for then. (This is obviously true no matter what color a person’s skin may be.) You can respect people’s feelings/experiences and also encourage forward progress and personal growth.

At some point we all have to come to the realization that people who are constantly bombarded with this type of messaging will reach a point where they aren’t angry, desperate, and disillusioned because of what may have happened to them in the past and cannot be changed, but because they perceive that they have no control over their own futures either. Feeding that cycle of hopelessness is the biggest crime being committed against the black community these days, imo.
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