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re: There are a lot of "conservatives" who want to end the MAGA/America First Populism.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:58 pm to attaboyMD
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:58 pm to attaboyMD
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Populism is antithetical to conservatism. Are there any books in your trailer park?
The onus is on you, define conservatism or what a conservative is.
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:01 pm to dgnx6
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Did you vote Trump in 2016?
No, but I certainly didn't vote for Hillary Clinton, either.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:02 pm to Bass Tiger
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define conservatism or what a conservative is.
Traditionally in favor of conservative social values and expansive government in particular areas (police, military, etc.) and limited government in other areas (regulations, free trade, etc.)
Trumpism/MAGA only tangentially touches that and populism is going to require Leftist economic policies (again, what Trump promotes).
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:02 pm to goatmilker
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Newty and Levin have different goals than the working class Americans.
Uhh...yeah.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:04 pm to jlnoles79
What's trashy about this?
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Pop·u·lism
/'päpy??liz(?)m/
noun
1.
a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups:
"the question is whether he will tone down his fiery populism now that he has joined the political establishment"
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:04 pm to Powerman
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So you can't handle the truth What else is new
BTW....what is the Truth?
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:04 pm to goatmilker
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Newty and Levin have different goals than the working class Americans.
Working class Americans demand leftist economic policies from their leaders. Hence why unions are so associated with the DEMs.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:04 pm to Antoninus
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and limited government (often called "fiscal") conservatives. The two categories are largely self-explanatory.
Limited government conservatives are "anti-statist libertarians". That description, not mine, is from the right wing economist Hoppe. Pretty simple.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Working class Americans demand leftist economic policies from their leaders. Hence why unions are so associated with the DEMs.
Less than 20-30% of working class Americans are in unions.....
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:11 pm to Bass Tiger
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Less than 20-30% of working class Americans are in unions.....
Isn’t a massive chunk of current union membership public sector employees?
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Working class Americans demand leftist economic policies from their leaders. Hence why unions are so associated with the DEMs.
So you say. I think the numbers show barrister that more Americans are non union than union. Makes your statement bullshite.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:12 pm to Bass Tiger
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Less than 20-30% of working class Americans are in unions.
OK. I said why unions are associated with DEMs and you respond with nothing of any substance.
Working class Americans demand leftist economic policies from their leaders, union or not.
Trumpism/MAGA is all about promising just this to get working class support.
I don't believe in Leftist economic policies, which has always been my biggest issue with Trump/MAGA
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:13 pm to Bass Tiger
Sorry your cult is collapsing
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:14 pm to frogtown
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frogtown
You have to love when a kommie pretends to lecture others about being conservative
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Working class Americans demand leftist economic policies from their leaders. Hence why unions are so associated with the DEMs.
I've been in Union and non Union work environments and the majority of working class people I know are far more fiscally conservative, morally grounded than +90% of the Establishment Recucklicans in the Imperial City.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:16 pm to goatmilker
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Makes your statement bullshite.
Work on logic and get back to me.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:16 pm to SDVTiger
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You have to love when a kommie pretends to lecture others about being conservative
Aren't you backing the candidate(Trump) with leftist fiscal policy? A simple yes or no will suffice.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:17 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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As did neoconservativism!
Neoconservatives aren’t conservative
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Isn’t a massive chunk of current union membership public sector employees?
When you combine the teachers unions and government employees they are by far the single largest voting block of Union Dim voters.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:18 pm to Bass Tiger
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the majority of working class people I know are far more fiscally conservative, morally grounded than +90% of the Establishment Recucklicans in the Imperial City.
Cool. They still demand leftist economic policies of their leaders. Trump is no different.
That's why populism and conservatism are at odds, unless you want to redefine "conservative" to mean "supports Leftist economic policies"
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