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The YouTube Files Part 1. Biden White House Pressured YouTube to Censor Americans



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re: The YouTube Files Part 1. Biden White House Pressured YouTube to Censor Americans
Russell Brand just got a boner.


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Remember, at times just mentioning there could possibly be some sort of unforeseen adverse effects from the injections was considered "misinformation".


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Remember when Trump won in 2016 and many Obama administration people moved to San Francisco to work for Big Tech companies? This is the result.


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YT and Google are in a precarious situation because it was the same US Govt that assisted them in censorship. So what will the penalty be? A “$200M fine” which is couch change to Google.


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I dont see how Google can get in trouble for this. They are free to do what they want. The govt using google to restrict citizens is the issue. How can the govt be punished?


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I dont see how Google can get in trouble for this. They are free to do what they want. The govt using google to restrict citizens is the issue. How can the govt be punished?


Think wider and go down on their asses. Don't be one that says it cannot be done.


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TerryDawg03
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re: The YouTube Files Part 1. Biden White House Pressured YouTube to Censor Americans
Orwell was accurate than he could have ever dreamed.

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I dont see how Google can get in trouble for this. They are free to do what they want. The govt using google to restrict citizens is the issue. How can the govt be punished?

Google probably has some govt contracts, so they should be looked at to see if they broke any laws. Maybe some SEC issues can be looked at.


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It's kind of difficult to follow, but Taibbi has been posting a bunch of stuff about this ridiculous self-proclaimed anti-disinformation superteam.
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No, the crucial element of the #CTILeague docs is that they show in great, gory detail a side of the anti-disinformation universe until now mostly hidden from the public. While the Twitter Files were important in confirming government involvement in defensive activities like censorship and deamplification, the #CTIFiles show how members were instructed in a wide range of offensive tactics, including everything from using burner phones to creating fake identities and sockpuppet accounts to infiltrate domestic political groups. CTIL trainings include instructions on “OpSec” with lines like “lock your shite down” and titles like “Persona: your spy disguise.”

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CTIL was established at the outset of the pandemic, perhaps even before, and took certain positions right away against posters like “No more lockdowns,” hashtags like #AllJobsAreEssential, groups like “open carry Texas,” even a joke meme pushing the Declaration of Independence as a “permission slip” to break Covid-19 curfews. “We should have seen this coming,” is the groaning comment in one incident report.


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CTIL — which at various points claimed to have over 500 people volunteering in their monitoring efforts — didn’t feel a need to hide electoral preferences in the group chats. As the whistleblower put it to me, “They just assume that anybody who’s smart thinks like them.” This is a common characteristic of people who work not just in this world but across professional America, in law firms, newsrooms, universities, etc. The uniform perspective for “anti-disinformation” work however is problematic in ways that don’t show up in those other places. It’s an extreme class issue, one of the reasons it’s so infuriating that the political left has expressed little to no interest in this topic.

I don’t favor censorship, but if I did, I’d want to be sure the people doing it did not all come from the same economic and educational background. That’s clearly the case with CTIL and others like it. These folks come from the same schools and tax bracket, they vomit out the same pre-fab Flaubertian bourgeois idiocies, inhabit the same informational bubble, and boast the same immunity to proletarian frustrations (read: reality). When all the reviewers have the same opinions, it’s not hard for them to identify deviance, which is what “anti-disinformation” really is, a deviance hunt. These people aren’t checking facts or trying to figure out truths, which is very difficult, but policing narrative correctitude, which is so easy, it can be done by machine.

One of the precursor organizations to CTIL, MisInfoSec — which included future Stanford hotshot Renee DiResta and some other interesting characters (the connections angle in the #CTIFiles is mind-blowing, but a for-later subject) — published in 2019 a fascinating and inadvertently revealing definition of what they considered to be the information dichotomy in the United States:

The online political environment in the United States is polarized, but the “filter bubbles” are best characterized as 1) the Fox News bubble and 2) everyone else. Second, the corrective sanctions at play in the two environments are highly asymmetric. The latter bubble penalizes for straying from the truth while the former penalizes for straying from the accepted narrative.


Forget that this is infuriating nonsense that defines everyone who doesn’t agree with “accepted narratives” as being in the “Fox News bubble,” and look at how the authors view themselves. They really believe their “bubble” is uniquely oriented to “truth.” Once you believe that, censorship is easy. People I like are right, and as for people I don’t — can we get all troll on their bums?



If you’re ever tempted to think this story is more complicated than that, it’s not. It’s Heathers, but run out of Langley and Fort Meade. And unlike high school, these people will never grow up.





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