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The Supreme Court Leak Only Accelerated the Inevitable

Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:35 am
Maybe just something for folks to consider. This thing is headed to mass riots and military intervention if we have any hope of not losing this country. Sorry, it's just how it is. Thread after thread and comment after comment on this board confirm it. Nobody seems to believe there is a legal way to fix this country and most seem to think we have officially lost it already. And I would say that's probably true - unless - it's as some of us say and we are headed towards a period of military control.

What we are seeing here is an attempt to strong arm the supreme court with an angry mob. This is outrageous and unacceptable. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle it comes from, this behavior is antithetical to the American Ideal.

If you have already convinced yourself that the American Experiment has failed then you should welcome this sort of behavior from the left. Because eventually something will have to give. It has been foretold that the military will intervene. And we need them to do just that.

Hell, at this point I wish Biden would actually walk on stage and pledge his fealty to Hitler himself, alive and well all these years later down in Argentina.

Anyways, yeah, trying to publicly bully the Supreme Court on the heels of a stolen election is a super bold move. The good news here maybe is that this leak indicates that the overall timeline has accelerated and we are that much closer to the point where shite gets set straight.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:40 am to
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Because eventually something will have to give. It has been foretold that the military will intervene. And we need them to do just that.


If the military intervenes its will be against the “far right white supremacist nazis.”

The left controls the military
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:42 am to
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If the military intervenes its will be against the “far right white supremacist nazis.”

The left controls the military




I disagree.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51711 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:44 am to
They may be angry and loud and crude and ugly, but...

they are exercising their constitutional right to free assembly and peaceful protest.

Nothing wrong with that.Now, when the decision comes down, if RvW is thrown out, and if they attack the courts, and state assemblies, then we have a different situation.

As it is now, they are within their rights.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82237 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:46 am to
The leak is a form of transparency for the public.

But, we all know who is going to to do civil unrest and riots and it isn't the good guys.

If SCOTUS placates the ones raising hell, this draft opinion won't hold.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:47 am to
Can we use the Capitol Hill Police rules of engagement where you can shoot unarmed protestors when you feel threatened by them approaching your position?

Love the new precedent that has given LEO to deal with rioters and protestors!!!
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:49 am to
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As it is now, they are within their rights.




I agree. I'm just speculating as to what will happen down the road. The court can't back out now lest they basically tell everyone outright that they're more concerned with how liberals will react than they are with their duty to uphold the law.

They're gonna throw it out. And all hell will break loose. We all know it. We all watched half this country burn just a short while ago because the Man of Orange is Not Good.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:49 am to
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military intervention


Did you see this?


Thread
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
869 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:59 am to
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If SCOTUS placates the ones raising hell, this draft opinion won't hold.



I believe the leaked draft was a 5-4 decision, correct? If Roberts was with the majority, does ANYONE believe he would stand firm, or fold like a cheap suit? He'll placate the mob in the blink of an eye, given his past decisions.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:59 am to
Yes. Wow! Upvotes and commented. for that, man.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51711 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:02 am to
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I believe the leaked draft was a 5-4 decision
How could it be when there are currently only 8 sitting justices that heard arguments?
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36569 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:09 am to
Perhaps it’s one of two drafts, and the decision has not yet been arrived at. I’m sure there is process by which the clerks go ahead and draft multiple versions, of course one for each/either of the main outcomes. The clerks don’t just begin drafting the written opinions only after the final decision has been arrived at. I’d guess that it’s likely normal procedure for them to have baseline drafts so they not horrendously under the gun only after final decision is made. And of course it’s only the more inflammatory draft version that was leaked, as opposed to both, which would make it rather obvious what the actual situation was.

To which essentially all this furor is prefaced upon “OMG, they could possibly overturn RvW!!” Well no f*ckin duh. Yeah, that’s one of the potential outcomes, in which case this is how a written opinion may look.

IMO this is the situation.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13703 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:11 am to
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If the military intervenes its will be against the “far right white supremacist nazis.”

The left controls the military


Maybe, maybe not. It’s true that the brass are all liberals. Hell, a general is pretty much a politician. But, from the top of the enlisted, Sergeant Major I believe, on down are the bulk of the forces, and they will still uphold the Constitution. The left hasn’t purged them all yet.

I side with BoarEd on this one. I think that conservatives would have the majority of the armed forces on their side.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2790 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:12 am to
Haven't we been saying this for the past decade? They will keep kicking the hornet's nest so they have an excuse to enact more control, e.g. Martial Law.

It's all by design.

China is the blueprint.
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
869 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:14 am to
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How could it be


Well, I did ask a question...and didn't make a definitive statement. You could have corrected me without the snark, bruh. So it's 5-3 with Roberts on deck.

From Politico:
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices — Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett — had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.

The three Democratic-appointed justices — Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan — are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.


My point still stands...Roberts will stick his finger in the air and check which way the wind is blowing. Not exactly a quality anyone should want in a CJ.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 9:19 am
Posted by Cajun Tigah
Tennessee Mountains
Member since Jan 2005
4071 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:25 am to
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But, from the top of the enlisted, Sergeant Major I believe, on down are the bulk of the forces, and they will still uphold the Constitution. The left hasn’t purged them all yet.


My son has been at a few rather big bases. We’ve got to know people at all of them. They’re all great people, but you might not want to bet your life on that statement. Most of them will follow orders.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16679 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:26 am to
The leak was of a draft that still has to have four other justices willing to agree to it, and even with the conservative bent of the court now, I have little confidence that would have happened even without a leak.

Alito and and Thomas are the only two I am certain of.

Roberts, Breyer, Kagan and Sotamayor are absolutely against if I had to predict.

Are we that certain that Gorusch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett all are going to side with the conservatives? I'm not. Before or after a leak.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 9:27 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36569 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:32 am to
The leak won’t have any bearing on how the Justices vote, IMO. I mean, if it were to have a bearing inasmuch as the hullabaloo has spooked one or some of them, well then that’s the process from here on out. Every single decision will be formed around the same situation each and every time they have any sort of controversial/polarizing case before them. I think they go well out of their way here to avoid that literal SC killing precedent.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16679 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:53 am to
I mean, how would we know? I am saying I am not at all confident the decision would have been toward the conservative side anyway. Your suggestion is that the vote could in fact be a factor, but the opposite way?
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7866 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:38 am to
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It has been foretold that the military will intervene. And we need them to do just that.



We see the Left thumbing their noses at the constitution, the border has been abandoned, elections stolen, and now they are depending on the mob to influence the Supreme Court.

the military- who is also is sworn the uphold the constitution- does nothing.

So when is something going to happen?
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