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re: The Senate DACA bill is a disaster

Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:58 pm to
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We don't want open borders or more illegals




Well the good news is I don't see anything in there that would lead to open borders.
Posted by HairyPooter
Member since Jan 2018
28 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Seems like a pretty good compromise bill.


This guy is really going to love it.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117474 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:59 pm to
Why is this a surprise? If it comes from the Senate it's crap. The GOP Senate is FAR more left wing than the GOP House.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:01 pm to
The frick is the point of that shite?

It's no better than the current run for the border, grab the kid from the afterbirth and anchor the family to that crime scenario.

Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:02 pm to
One of the reasons the Senate version is so weak, besides the normal ones, is that our gumpy friends from Alabama were dumb enough to vote for a Democrat for Senator. Of course we here in Louisiana voted for JBE so.....
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115068 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:03 pm to
frick the Senate.

Chain them to their desks and burn it to the fricking ground.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10367 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:07 pm to
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And 90%+ of his supporters, regardless of how they felt about it before, will suddenly decide they love it because Trump told them to.

bullshite. Last I checked Trump supporters weren't pussy-arse liberals that do what their told.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:08 pm to
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So you are FOR open borders?


He's for giving all illegals aliens federal social benefits as long as it doesn't come out of his paycheck.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:11 pm to
I guess the cucks in the Senate have a cuckish strategy.

Propose as cuck as possible DACA bill and hope it doesn't return too alpha from the House. Reconcile the two and you end up with Mr. T in a mini skirt DACA bill.
Posted by TigersInParis
Member since Nov 2017
311 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Last I checked Trump supporters weren't pussy-arse liberals that do what their told.


You're right, they're worse! They don't just do what they're told. They do, say, and even think what they're told.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:15 pm to
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The idea of giving citizenship is insane.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90325 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:16 pm to
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They don't just do what they're told. They do, say, and even think what they're told.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:26 pm to
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DACA amnesty – Undo the rollback of Temporary Protected Status for Haitians, Salvadorans and Nicaraguans which has recently been touted as a white pill on several websites. In exchange: – Revamp, but not end, the diversity lottery – Rework, but not end, the formula for chain migration. DREAMers wouldn’t be allowed to sponsor relatives – Strengthen the e-Verify system
Sounds good.

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Less than $9 billion for some type of physical structure on the Mexican border
Shouldn't even require that much. Aren't the Mexicans cutting a check?
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

So you are FOR open borders?
Are you new here?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26133 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:44 pm to
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Seems like a pretty good compromise bill. Something we used to see all the time 15+ years ago. I guess compromise is a disaster nowadays though.


The only problem is it is stupid to compromise on the issue that swept you into office. The "compromise" is political defeat in this context.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

So you are FOR open borders?


Open borders.

Jumbo shrimp.

Military intelligence.

Sane Progressives.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26133 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Trump will sign whatever the GOP puts in from him without reading it. Then he'll tell you to like it. And 90%+ of his supporters, regardless of how they felt about it before, will suddenly decide they love it because Trump told them to.


How quickly we forget when Pelosi and Schumer mentioned Trump was giving up the wall, and his coalition held his feet to the fire. It's like you guys don't even watch what's actually happening.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:47 pm to
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The only problem is it is stupid to compromise on the issue that swept you into office.



I guess democracy is the problem then.

Or maybe the problem is the ignorance of the man that ran on an issue that would need compromise to implement.

Or maybe it's both. I don't know.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26133 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Shouldn't even require that much. Aren't the Mexicans cutting a check?


They're about to pay for it. When NAFTA goes away, it's going to kill their assemble and dump strategy. They may not "cut a check," but they are going to pay a heavy price.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26133 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I guess democracy is the problem then.

Or maybe the problem is the ignorance of the man that ran on an issue that would need compromise to implement.

Or maybe it's both. I don't know.


There isn't a problem, per se. He has to deliver. This bill isn't delivering. I will reserve judgment until I see the final details. The idea that Trump needs congressional authority to build the wall is silliness, though.
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