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The SCOTUS liberals are not happy with Trump's federal executions
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:09 am
Death penalty would be an acutal deterrant if they stopped all the unnecessary delays.
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The supreme court justices Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer have excoriated the Trump administration for carrying out its 13th and final federal execution days before the president leaves office.
Dustin John Higgs died by lethal injection at the federal correctional institute in Terre Haute, Indiana, on Friday night, after his 11th-hour clemency appeal was rejected.
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“This was not justice,” Sotomayor, a Barack Obama appointee, wrote in an order issued late on Friday.
“To put that in historical context, the federal government will have executed more than three times as many people in the last six months than it had in the previous six decades,” she wrote.
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Breyer went further than Sotomayor by questioning the constitutionality of the death penalty, the first member of the current panel to do so. The third liberal justice, Elena Kagan, also dissented in the Higgs case but did not give an explanation.
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“He received a fair trial and was convicted and sentenced to death by a unanimous jury for a despicable crime,” the US district judge Peter Messitte wrote in December.
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Many believe officials rushed to complete a series of executions before Joe Biden is inaugurated on 20 January. Biden has stated his desire to have the death penalty abolished at federal and state level.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:13 am to WPBTiger
Well, that's too damn bad.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:15 am to WPBTiger
Fairly certain is was the courts that sentenced them to death.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:16 am to WPBTiger
We actually need more of this, but I’m not really thinking of people who are currently incarcerated
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:17 am to WPBTiger
Well if I sold out to foreign governments and committed treason, I would be opposed to the death penalty as well.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:17 am to WPBTiger
Does the article actually explain how Trump is the one who is making these executions happen?
Doesn’t the judicial branch adjudicate the case, hand down a sentence, and hear the appeals?
So, if I’m right, Trump is simply choosing not to grant clemency, choosing not to override the court?
The Trump Derangement Syndrome continues to rage at a fevered pitch.
Doesn’t the judicial branch adjudicate the case, hand down a sentence, and hear the appeals?
So, if I’m right, Trump is simply choosing not to grant clemency, choosing not to override the court?
The Trump Derangement Syndrome continues to rage at a fevered pitch.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 9:21 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:39 am to WPBTiger
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Death penalty would be an acutal deterrant if they stopped all the unnecessary delays.
This is an issue I studied in depth about 30 years ago.
The term was 'certainty of punishment.' The research said any type of punishment must have a level of severity but also a big element of certainty (high percentage it will happen and it happens quickly).
It was intriguing material. For example, the reason some people will play golf when a storm is coming is because there is an extremely low risk of getting struck by lightening that outweighs the severity of getting killed by it.
OTOH, the risk a smoker takes of dying from cancer is very high, but the time lapse may be 40 years so there is no deterrent.
So, for cap pun to deter you have to kill a high percentage of murderers and you have to kill them within a year or two.
Another interesting factor was 'societal retribution.' IE, executing Adolph Eichmann was not designed to deter people from gassing Jews. He was killed because it just made people feel good. Every time I read about a murderer dying it makes me feel good and I don't even know the victim.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:40 am to Jimbeaux
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Does the article actually explain how Trump is the one who is making these executions happen?
No it does not. The Trump administration restarted them after a 16 year hiatus. Inmates sued but the administration won the right to restart them.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:45 am to WPBTiger
Soto meter doesn’t even qualify for SC
Screw both of their opinions
Screw both of their opinions
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:51 am to WPBTiger
So killing unborn innocent babies is okay but don't you dare kill dangerous criminals? Democrat logic
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:56 am to WPBTiger
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“To put that in historical context, the federal government will have executed more than three times as many people in the last six months than it had in the previous six decades,” Sotomayor wrote.
And under Pelosi, the House has initiated more impeachment processes than anyone else in US history.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:09 am to WPBTiger
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:13 am to WPBTiger
Pretty sure the death penalty was not newly released during the Trump administration!!! SCOTUS is the pits!
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:16 am to RealDawg
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Fairly certain is was the courts that sentenced them to death.
Fairly certain that by not hearing the cases on election fraud the courts have sentenced us all to death.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:23 am to WPBTiger
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Sonia Sotomayor
A 10-pound bag of elephant dung is more useful than this worthless bitch. At least elephant dung can be used as fertilizer (the commute to Africa to get some is a bitch, though, and Amazon doesn't carry it).
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:23 am to PsychTiger
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So, if I’m right, Trump is simply choosing not to grant clemency, choosing not to override the court?
Death penalty cases do not land on the desk of the President. Other than a pardon ....what input did Trump have?
In cases where the DOJ discovered the conviction should be overturned, Trump weighed in to speed the process along. But he was not signing death warrants.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:30 am to WPBTiger
He gunned down 3 women, Tamika Black, Tanji Jackson, and Mishann Chinn.
Say her name.
Say her name.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:41 am to Zach
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So, for cap pun to deter you have to kill a high percentage of murderers and you have to kill them within a year or two.
The assassins of Anwar Sadat were executed six months later by the Egyptian government six months later. We should take a lesson from that.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:42 am to WPBTiger
I am not against killing for certain crimes but I do not think the state should be able to execute people. They frick up too much stuff to have that power and the potential for abuse by the government is too high. I am all for victims getting retribution, and we should do that through jury nullification.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:44 am to bluedragon
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So, if I’m right, Trump is simply choosing not to grant clemency, choosing not to override the court?
Death penalty cases do not land on the desk of the President. Other than a pardon ....what input did Trump have?
We're talking about federal executions. Trump could sign an EO pausing executions at the federal level. I'm not saying he should, just that he has the authority to do so. He's the man at the top when it comes to the DOJ. But he can't do anything about state executions.
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