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re: The right is divided
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If thats the real knock on Mccain
No that was a factual response to your post. Bob and weave bro.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:16 pm to SOON3RKILL3R
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Only dickless soy boys talk like that.
You sound like the kind of guy who peeks over the urinal to check out the other guys junk.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:30 am to goatmilker
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No that was a factual response to your post. Bob and weave bro
Well most of the economic simpletons on this board wouldnt know fiscal restraint if they were experiencing it.
The facts are out there. I posted his fiscal positions.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 6:32 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:12 am to 10thyrsr
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What are your takes on how we come together?
We are not divided in Trump camp...
most issues are common sense, and so it come naturally how we think about things in the media/news
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:41 am to 10thyrsr
My take OP, is that this concern of yours is valid.
My response is this: Trump created this Movement. This Movement has got to be bigger and more permanent than Donald Trump. Trump's only got 4 years more as POTUS. This Movement must last longer than that. We haven't figured out how to make this Movement survive for the long haul. It might not.
Second, The Movement itself must develop an ability to Unify these disparate components of this Movement. Nobody knows how to do this. The power of Trump's charisma and personality can't do this without help. What is that help? From where does this help arrive? Again, nobody knows.
So, IMHO at the moment, this Movement is what I would say is: paper thin. It could end up being a mere "sugar high" that crashes back to Obama - Kerry - Biden World run by their minions and controllers.
My response is this: Trump created this Movement. This Movement has got to be bigger and more permanent than Donald Trump. Trump's only got 4 years more as POTUS. This Movement must last longer than that. We haven't figured out how to make this Movement survive for the long haul. It might not.
Second, The Movement itself must develop an ability to Unify these disparate components of this Movement. Nobody knows how to do this. The power of Trump's charisma and personality can't do this without help. What is that help? From where does this help arrive? Again, nobody knows.
So, IMHO at the moment, this Movement is what I would say is: paper thin. It could end up being a mere "sugar high" that crashes back to Obama - Kerry - Biden World run by their minions and controllers.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:44 am to 10thyrsr
The GOP is a coalition party.
The GOPe will vote as a block when it benefits them and their special interests and will side with the democrats when it doesn’t, simple as that.
The MAGA movement will have to govern accordingly or clean house during the primaries moving forward, but you can’t govern as a monolithic party when you aren’t.
The GOPe will vote as a block when it benefits them and their special interests and will side with the democrats when it doesn’t, simple as that.
The MAGA movement will have to govern accordingly or clean house during the primaries moving forward, but you can’t govern as a monolithic party when you aren’t.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:11 am to Champagne
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Trump created this Movement.
Respectfully, I couldn't disagree more.
I think the emotional trend of the base made it possible for someone like Trump to succeed and I think he was in exactly the right place at exactly the right time under exactly the right conditions to fit into that populist-shaped hole perfectly.
Now, that's not to say that there's not a cult of personality at work with regard to Trump as well...I definitely think there is. It's highly doubtful that whoever follows him will have the unconditional and sycophantic devotion that Trump enjoys with a large portion of the Republican base, but again, I don't think that's because he led them someplace they weren't already, I think it's because he so perfectly gave voice to what they were already looking for.
In short, the base was already looking for a populist. It just so happens that Trump is the most quintessential populist in America who speaks populist better than anyone else who came before him and is likely to follow him.
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This Movement must last longer than that. We haven't figured out how to make this Movement survive for the long haul. It might not.
Well, first of all, I think Trump's pick for VP and several cabinet picks are designed to do exactly that. Many of them are young, with 20+ good years in politics ahead of them.
But secondly, you don't want it to last too long. If populism can be responsible for shrinking government to any significant degree and pushing back on the lawless weaponization of the FBI and DOJ and moving the needle away from championing European-style "diversity" and killing the legacy media, it will have done America a tremendous service.
Sincerely. Like, a revolutionary service.
But it can't continue indefinitely. Taken to its logical conclusion it is a self defeating mechanism.
It will run us over a cliff if allowed to last indefinitely, just as surely as the populism of the left (aided and abetted by the RINO culture on the right) would have.
People need to read Animal Farm. If a revolution can be successful, someone has to then take control and be in charge of the new order. If that vacuum is filled by rightest populist instead of leftist populists, we're no better off than we were before. We'll have the same problems, they'll just be the mirror image or for different reasons.
If conservatism can't win out at some point, in 40 or 50 years we'll be right back at the same point. If we make it that long.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:14 pm to 10thyrsr
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The right is divided
Better than being monolithic, like the democrats.
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