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re: The Republican war on women, George Will's turn

Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:12 pm to
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You know I love you.



Naked camping soon?


Yes ma'am. I'll message you soon
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:12 pm to
I hate radical feminists.

They try, more than any group that I've ever met, to force their beliefs on everyone. And it's fair to generalize the radical ones. They're crazy.

They scream about fairness, yet really don't want anything to be fair. I have encountered quite a few, and like I said earlier, they scare me.

And how are we talking about oil companies now? I've skipped a few of his tl;dr posts. I guess it was in one of those.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:13 pm to



BACK TO THE WAR ON WOMENZ!!!!!!


Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:14 pm to
Rex, you are ungood at paraphrasing.

quote:

They (college campuses) are learning that when they say campus victimizations are ubiquitous (“micro-aggressions,” often not discernible to the untutored eye, are everywhere), and that when they make victimhood a coveted status that confers privileges, victims proliferate.


Ironically, you actually made George Will's point by bastardizing his quote.

Good work, chum!
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:15 pm to
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what fuels all social justice warriors?

they have a set of beliefs, and will do whatever is necessary to promote those beliefs. they see problems, and will do whatever is possible to enact that change. it's human bias. i just don't know why you accept it in one sphere but refuse to accept it in another



This is just asinine. People into social justice WANT the problems to improve. This idea that they have some vested interest in making it "appear" that there is more of a problem than actually exists is just right wing desire to trivialize those issues.

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again, QUANTITY is the issue. not existence


We're having two different conversations, the quantity to me is enough that it's a social problem and we should be taking steps as a society to address it. Whether it's 1 in 5 or 1 in 7 doesn't really matter to me because, as i pointed out, we'll never know the true number.
Posted by novabill
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:16 pm to
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It's a "special privilege" to get off Scott free with no jail time after FALSELY accusing a man of rape, dragging him through the mud, and destroying him socially and sometimes financially after having consensual sex because she regrets it.


once again, switching the focus to something completely irrelevant


I think not.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:16 pm to
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clear that underreported rape is a problem is this country.


And no one has disputed this still. Just your shitty posting.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:17 pm to
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They scream about fairness, yet really don't want anything to be fair. I have encountered quite a few, and like I said earlier, they scare me


Agree!!! I really and truly believe that radical feminism is a severe mental disorder. There is no other explanation for their beliefs.
Posted by novabill
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Well the girl who accused Brian Banks got over a million dollars for being seen as a rape victim, so there's that.


There is no value in a million........
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:19 pm to
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And no one has disputed this still.


Okay so why has SFP spent 3 pages trying to muddy the really issue? You're saying he cares THAT much about getting an EXACT count?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:19 pm to
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the quantity to me is enough that it's a social problem and we should be taking steps as a society to address it.

quote:

This idea that they have some vested interest in making it "appear" that there is more of a problem than actually exists is just right wing desire to trivialize those issues.

i hope you realize the ironing
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:20 pm to
Absolutely.


Other than being molested or abused by their fathers, maybe, there is just no logical reason behind their thinking.

But I have a good father. He has always been in my life and my parents have been married for 40 years. I realize that I am lucky in that aspect and I'm not trying to bash anyone who isn't. It's just the only way that I can possibly rationalize their thinking. And even then, to hate men as much as they do is still irrational.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Other than being molested or abused by their fathers, maybe, there is just no logical reason behind their thinking.


Wow so now we're saying feminists are feminists because they were molested by their fathers?????
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:22 pm to
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i hope you realize the ironing


just like i hope you realize how obtuse you're being
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:24 pm to
Yeah....after that post, he mentioned more women other than me being in the thread to voice their opinions.

When others showed up and basically agreed with me, he vanished.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:26 pm to
you just did exactly what you claimed was a myth...within the same post
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Okay so why has SFP spent 3 pages trying to muddy the really issue? You're saying he cares THAT much about getting an EXACT count?


You've spent 3 pages trying to muddy the issue. You claimed a poster didn't believe that rapes were under reported. We pointed out that he didn't believe your claim with respect to rape crisis counselors (a claim which was separate from the statistics in the thread and which you conflated with statistics in the thread - the 1 in 5). You then cited something which didn't say what you said it said and then argued with him (SFP) about it for 3 pages. Then you accuse him of trying to muddy the waters. It's an impressive display of obfuscation if one values that sort of thing.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Agree!!! I really and truly believe that radical feminism is a severe mental disorder. There is no other explanation for their beliefs.

The "feminism" of these women is just as false as their "victimhood." Whatever disorder they have has nothing to do with feminism. Just as the suffering of women who have been raped is trivialized by the culture of false victimhood, there are many scholarly people in the field of feminism and feminist theory whose collective scholarship is undermined by a slew of young women who wear false "feminism" on their sleeve.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:28 pm to
Every one that I have met personally, and there are quite a few on the MS coast that I met when I lived there, said that it was their reason. One hated men because she had just gotten out of an abusive marriage. I met them through her, she was my neighbor. Nothing against them, it's just my first hand experience with them.


Talking to you is like talking to a rock. I said man hating radical feminists. I did not generalize all feminists. I'll leave that to you.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:29 pm to
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you just did exactly what you claimed was a myth...within the same post


As i've already explained, I've seen enough of these studies, from a variety of sources, to conclude on my own that there's a problem.

Not only that but awhile back I dated a girl who worked at a rape crisis hotline one summer who told me some incredible and horrible stories. Many of those women (according to her) did not file a police report.

So are you saying those women were lying or that their situation is not prevalent enough to be a social problem.

Do you think there's anything society should do to make it easer for those women to come forward?
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