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re: The Problem is the Saudis
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Ksa and Israel. No one wants to admit the latter.
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:07 pm to Wtodd
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Not just his; a lot of people are responsible for Yemen
a majority of it is KSA tho
shows how shitty their military is when a proxy of Iran keeps handing them their arse and all KSA can do is drop bombs on random houses.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:07 pm to SCLibertarian
You conveniently left the Bushes out
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I think its the banking elite
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:08 pm to TigerBlazer
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You conveniently left the Bushes out
You think I like the Bush family? Can't stand them either.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:09 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The problem is three sided:
Iran
Israel
Saudi Arabia
We would be better off without all 3.
Iran
Israel
Saudi Arabia
We would be better off without all 3.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The last time we saw an oil-soaked Gulf country push too hard and too fast to suppress the crazies, we got Iran.
This stuff takes time. You just don’t make a change that fast, and you shouldn’t want to.
This stuff takes time. You just don’t make a change that fast, and you shouldn’t want to.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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is all for show bc MBS knows if KSA does not changes those things. KSA will be left behind. but keep proping up MBS
Well yeah, he seems fairly intelligent, so I’d hope he understands they need to change. The whole point right now is to attract foreign investment and involvement. The kellogg assassination really put the brakes on that, but they’re still pushing ahead.
Is KSA our natural enemy as long as they keep funding Wahhabism? Absolutely. Are people we don’t like automatically retards? No.
From what I understand, the official government spending on Wahhabist madrasas in other countries has slowed/stopped. As far as private spending, at what point do you declare that allowing some freedom of capital investment is incompatible with economic freedom? Just because some people did something doesn’t mean you have to stop letting other people do other things, ya know?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:14 pm to Wtodd
It's most definitely his pet project. He launched the Saudi intervention without consulting any of the state security services, he brought in Sudanese troops who openly dislike the UAE and Saudi officers that run them, and he insisted the war would be a quick one, while here we are, four years later.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:19 pm to Ag Zwin
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The last time we saw an oil-soaked Gulf country push too hard and too fast to suppress the crazies, we got Iran.
Utter nonsense. The Shah himself was sending out Ayatollahs to Lebanon and Iraq to bridge gaps and position Iran as the leader of the Shia world. There were nearly three years of protests across professions and social classes before the revolution as well. During those protests, the Shah wanted to recall Musa al-Sadr, the uncle of Muqtada al-Sadr, to serve as a buttress against Khomeini, but Musa al-Sadr was murdered in Libya, probably by Gaddafi.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:20 pm to idlewatcher
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OP lives in a bubble. You're spot on.
OP has spent plenty of time in the Middle East
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:23 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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and it will always be the Saudis
MBS isn't doing shite to stop the wahhabism movement
all those arrest were for show
No. No. There are a lot of reasons. The Saudis and wahhabism are some of the problems. But there are many problems from the Phillipines to Afghanistan to France.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:25 pm to GnashRebel
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But there are many problems from the Phillipines to Afghanistan to France.
You do know what brand of Islam the extremist in those countries follow
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Not only that, I'd argue that absence of a globalizing drive that Wahhabi/Salafi Islam represents, those problems would be local rather than global.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:30 pm to crazy4lsu
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The Wahhabi sect is integral to the Saudi state. It was integral to its founding. It's integral to the Saudis to this day.
If Wahhabism is the problem, what explains the siege of Vienna, the attack on Constantinople, and the invasion of Spain?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:37 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You do know what brand of Islam the extremist in those countries follow
Is Iranian sponsored terror a product of Wahhabi teachings?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:39 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You do know what brand of Islam the extremist in those countries follow
Is the Taliban Wahabi?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:40 pm to StraightCashHomey21
So, why do the terrorists hate the Saudis so much?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:41 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You do know what brand of Islam the extremist in those countries follow
Is Hezbollah Wahabi?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:41 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You do know what brand of Islam the extremist in those countries follow
Is Hamas Wahabi?
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