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re: The poorest people in this country have 4k tvs and 1000 dollar cell phones.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:17 pm to Klark Kent
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:17 pm to Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:21 pm to Powerman
quote:No.
By definition not a high end luxury item...
By definition, the target has moved.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:51 pm to NC_Tigah
What has moved is a 4K TV is no longer considered a high end luxury item
I don't know why you're willing to die on that hill that it is because it clearly isn't
I don't know why you're willing to die on that hill that it is because it clearly isn't
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:32 pm to Powerman
High end merchandise is a relative scale, isnt it?
A 4K large screen TV, adorning every trailer and section 8 apartment in this country is at the high-end of the scale of available TV's. I could argue, that if you can't even feed yourself, you should probably skip the TV (and the internet streaming and/or cable charges that come with it) and feed your family first.... but that can't be it because they are all fat.
Similarly, an apple or andriod smart phone, especially government issued, is a revolting example of waste. It too comes with monthly charges that these "starving poor people" always seem to find a way to pay, even though I've been told that they cant afford a $30 state ID card.
They also always seem to have expensive shoes and clothes on too. I guess a $150 pair of basketball shoes ins't "high-end" to you either.
A 4K large screen TV, adorning every trailer and section 8 apartment in this country is at the high-end of the scale of available TV's. I could argue, that if you can't even feed yourself, you should probably skip the TV (and the internet streaming and/or cable charges that come with it) and feed your family first.... but that can't be it because they are all fat.
Similarly, an apple or andriod smart phone, especially government issued, is a revolting example of waste. It too comes with monthly charges that these "starving poor people" always seem to find a way to pay, even though I've been told that they cant afford a $30 state ID card.
They also always seem to have expensive shoes and clothes on too. I guess a $150 pair of basketball shoes ins't "high-end" to you either.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:49 pm to Powerman
quote:Powerman, you are addressing price.
What has moved is a 4K TV is no longer considered a high end luxury item
I am addressing luxury.
The TVs you're talking about were both high end, and luxury products, 20yrs ago. They are far nicer now than they were then. Their affordability does not change the fact.
The problem with our communication here arises from the societal relativity of poverty. In the comparison of Powerman's possessions vs those of an "impoverished" person, the impoverished person lags and wishes he was Powerman, even if the he himself enjoys a much better lifestyle than his predecessors.
Poverty floats with median income. When median income in the US eventually hits $100K/HH, threshold poverty in the US will be $60K! Because "poverty" always elicits empathy, folks will be empathetic regardless of lifestyle that $60K allows at that juncture.
What could folks making $60K/yr afford in that scenario?
It does not matter, because the calculus is simply formulaic based on median income.
So we have an economic class of 36M or so, which we in the US refer to as impoverished, but which bears no semblance to internationally impoverished peoples. Further we offer SNAP to families up to 30% above the poverty line.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 1:57 pm
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