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The point about more drugs coming through ports of entry is potentially misleading

Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:25 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:25 am
Because it relies on data that only counts drugs that were intercepted

It doesn’t count drugs that successfully make it over the border

Because it’s much easier to catch drugs from boats in a extremely limited space like a port than from vehicles over hundreds and hundreds of miles of open landscape, it skews the data.

When statistics say that more drugs are caught at ports than at border crossings, what the statistics are actually saying is that it is EASIER to catch drugs at ports than over the wide open lands of border country.

It doesn’t actually mean there are more drugs coming through ports

We simply have no clue how much is currently crossing unsecured border area

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78912 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:28 am to
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It doesn’t actually mean there are more drugs coming through ports


I believe the majority of drugs do come through the ports, but only because you can stash far larger amounts in cars.......than on someone's back.

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We simply have no clue how much is currently crossing unsecured border area


Agreed. You could argue that as well for crossing by foot.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:29 am to
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I believe the majority of drugs do come through the ports, but only because you can stash far larger amounts in cars.......than on someone's back.

This makes sense on a "per shipment" basis but how many shipments make it thru the ports vs. over the border??
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24495 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:29 am to
quote:

When statistics say that more drugs are caught at ports than at border crossings, what the statistics are actually saying is that it is EASIER to catch drugs at ports than over the wide open lands of border country.




Excellent point
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:30 am to
The Dems argument is so full of fail. One of the benefits of a wall is to funnel traffic into a port of entry so it can be better monitored for smuggling. We know its likely the ports get the high load shipments of hard drugs but that shite is humped in too. So why wouldn't you at least shut off at least one avenue so you can concentrate on others?

On and by the way illegals too.....
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34653 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:30 am to
The left loves spouting off this line yet offer zero solutions to fix that problem. They truly want zero border security
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:31 am to
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ports of entry



:facepalm:

This isnt limited to boats. It also includes points of entry that cars drive across (southern border) or airports.

This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 10:32 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69250 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:40 am to
The point still stands though.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2034 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:43 am to
Just another reason not to turn our Health Care over to the Government. I believe that the Port of Entries are guarded by Federal workers.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:43 am to
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Because it relies on data that only counts drugs that were intercepted



Yup.

And, every last soul who propagates this silliness knows it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:45 am to
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The point still stands though.

Exactly.

Even using the Dem argument, one can simply point out that the more immigrant traffic is forced to use ports of entry, then, the more likely they are to get caught.

Basically, their argument is one in FAVOR of making all other avenues more difficult.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:47 am to
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The point still stands though.


No it doesn't.

There are millions of border crossing daily legally. Much easier to hide drugs in that than to put it on one person's back.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:48 am to
quote:

No it doesn't.

There are millions of border crossing daily legally. Much easier to hide drugs in that than to put it on one person's back.


This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

You routinely for me to assume that either you are blindingly stupid or absurdly dishonest.

I don't tend to like to assume stupidity. So...........
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:49 am to
quote:

ports of entry



quote:

:facepalm:

This isnt limited to boats. It also includes points of entry that cars drive across (southern border) or airports.


And the more that ports of entry are strengthened but the wall isn't built the more drug dealers will bring their drugs across the southern border where there is no wall.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69250 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:50 am to
That makes zero sense

It is infinitely more risky to sneak drugs across at highly visited areas with a higher number of patrols than to get it across where the chances of eyes watching you are close to zero
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:51 am to
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And the more that ports of entry are strengthened but the wall isn't built the more drug dealers will bring their drugs across the southern border where there is no wall.

It's like putting your traffic enforcement cops ONLY on highways and then declaring that there's basically not enough dangerous driving on non-highways to worry about.

So, you hire more highway cops.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:53 am to
quote:


This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

You routinely for me to assume that either you are blindingly stupid or absurdly dishonest.

I don't tend to like to assume stupidity. So...........

I am not denying drugs go over the border outside of POE.

But the OP, misidentifies what a port of entry is, I correct him and then you call me stupid. No where do you point out where I am wrong, instead, straight to insults.

This is a switch from yesterday where I was a bad person. Now I am bad and stupid!

I appreciate the free rent in your head.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:56 am to
quote:

It is infinitely more risky to sneak drugs across at highly visited areas with a higher number of patrols than to get it across where the chances of eyes watching you are close to zero


Its a numbers game. They know they will X amount to interdiction and mark up accordingly.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:56 am to
quote:

There are millions of border crossing daily legally. Much easier to hide drugs in that than to put it on one person's back.


Or several people?

A backpack full of bricks is a lot if money, and is easier to get across than the same amount hidden in a tire.

They get people to carry the goods across, then put the goods in cars and whatnot. This isn't hard to figure out. The ports of entry are the hardest and least reliable places to smuggle.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2176 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:56 am to
Don't ruin the narrative.
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