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re: The paradox of America is in our faces

Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by badlands
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:28 pm to
No. It is the truth. Nothing about political parties.
Posted by jptiger2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:30 pm to
While I place importance with structure in my life, I continually learn how to do things a little better than I did before. I seek to improve my thinking and not limit myself.
Posted by badlands
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 4:36 pm to
Look at other countries. Then tell me we have it bad.
Posted by jptiger2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Look at other countries. Then tell me we have it bad.



I agree. I, as a white male, have had it great in America. But, I guess that's for a different topic.
Posted by jptiger2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:10 pm to
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The Left votes to receive money.
The Right votes to receive opportunity.



That's exactly what the alt right wants you to believe, and of course, you receive 83% upvotes from this page...further proving my points.
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:15 pm to
Next question. Name another county where the "poor" are generally overweight and have free health and, get this, can actually improve their standard of living if they apply themselves. Look at poor in other countries and tell me they have it better. Go,ahead and lie.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:17 pm to
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That's exactly what the alt right wants you to believe


Can you tell me some alt-right thinkers who espouse this mindset?
Posted by jptiger2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:18 pm to
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The Progressive mind is something to behold.


I'm curious to know what you stand for..?? You can't be so antiprogressive and not be the polar opposite (in my mind).

How much of your money do you give others outside of your lawful portion?
Posted by badlands
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:21 pm to
Waiting on an answer. Would you rather b poor here or in Cuba?
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:22 pm to
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My point is to make the distinction that there are a large majority of left winged people of great wealth that have no issue with handing over greater percentages of their wealth in income tax.


And they generally decide to give money to charitable causes instead of the government.(they're free to do either). What does that say about how they feel the most efficient use of their "generosity" is?
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:22 pm to
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just find it a bit crazy that so many Americans with no money vote for others to keep their money.



you mean they aren't thieves? it's THEIR money... so those in the quote here are simply moral, and hope to be among those with money one day.

hope and drive are how this world work, hombre.
Posted by jptiger2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:27 pm to
I was responding to his generalizations.

To think that (all) people on the left are looking for handouts is elementary.

Likewise, to think that the Republican party is purely one of progress is equally small minded. Progress is much bigger than widening pocket books. It has to be. It's the Status quo (Bush) or bring us back/slow us down (Trump).

Donald Trump knows how to make money, but he could care less about the actual progress and sustainability of our country.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:29 pm to
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they generally decide to give money to charitable causes instead of the government


That's an assumption. Many do but that's not something we see.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1007 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:30 pm to
Progress isn't always in the right direction. If Trump can slow down some of the "progress" that the left considers righteous. I'm all for it.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:31 pm to
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Many do but that's not something we see


lol who the hell do you think keeps up most philanthropic and NGO structures?
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:32 pm to
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hope and drive are how this world work, hombre.



That's our American dream!

But, you misunderstand what a capitalist does to make and keep money. It's mostly ugly, and I think it's mostly the opposite of what you think it is.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1007 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:32 pm to
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That's an assumption. Many do but that's not something we see.


It's no more of an assumption that anything you have posted. There is ample evidence that some of the richest among us have chosen private giving over government spending.

This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 5:33 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56701 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:34 pm to
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But, you misunderstand what a capitalist does to make and keep money. It's mostly ugly, and I think it's mostly the opposite of what you think it is.



Now I'm expecting you to tell me that the capitalist is a parasitic entity that extracts the surplus value of labor (which, OBVIOUSLY, has intrinsic value) in order to perpetuate the prevailing superstructure.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:34 pm to
Progressive nature is always moving right.

Does it need regulation? Absolutely
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56701 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 5:34 pm to
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Progressive nature is always moving right.



what

Is this some kind of Whiggish thought or...?
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 5:36 pm
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