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re: The only congressman that tried to stop the foreign aid grift was Thomas Massie.

Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86271 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:10 pm to
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Is that Massie's fault that he tried to leverage the debt ceiling in order to get spending cuts and the leaders of the GOP chose not to use them?



He added $9 trillion to the debt with his vote.



Congrats to the principled conservatives.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5769 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:31 pm to
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He added $9 trillion to the debt with his vote.


How so? There was no spending in the Fiscal Responsibility Act.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:13 pm to
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He added $9 trillion to the debt with his vote.
Link?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297270 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:27 pm to
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I’m the one that provided YOU with the definition


You googled it, you don't understand it .
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 11:24 pm to
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Yes you do disagree. The Fiscal Responsibility Act was a raise in the debt ceiling accompanied by spending cuts. You have been disagreeing with that the last three months.


What were the spending cuts? How much was cut? Be specific.

This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 11:25 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 11:25 pm to
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You googled it, you don't understand it .

typical admitted liberal projection.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5769 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:23 am to
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What were the spending cuts?




You need to learn who to fricking read. Last time I do your work for you.

The cuts to discretionary were not triggered because Mike Johnson and Trump chose not to use them. That is just fact.

There were other cuts, work provisions, clawed back COVID, clawed back IRS funds in the bill.


The Fiscal Responsibility Act (FRA) of 2023 was a bipartisan budget deal to raise the U.S. debt ceiling, suspending it until 2025 while implementing spending cuts, primarily through caps on discretionary spending for FY2024-2025, rescinding some COVID-era funds, and adding stricter work requirements for SNAP/TANF, all aimed at reducing deficits by about $1.5 trillion over a decade, also impacting NEPA and permitting reform.
Key Provisions:
Debt Limit Suspension: Suspended the debt ceiling until January 1, 2025, preventing default.
Spending Caps: Set caps for defense and nondefense discretionary spending for FY2024 and FY2025, with potential automatic spending cuts (sequestration) if limits are breached.
Budget Reductions: Rescinded around $30 billion in unspent COVID-19 funds and $1.4 billion from the IRS, plus redirected some IRS funds.
Work Requirements: Strengthened work requirements for SNAP (food stamps) and TANF (welfare) for able-bodied adults without dependents.
Permitting Reform: Included provisions to streamline environmental reviews for energy projects, amending the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA).
Student Loans: Ended the pause on federal student loan payments.
Administrative Pay-As-You-Go: Required agencies to find savings for new spending initiatives.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 4:40 am
Posted by MadQfrog
Rural VA
Member since May 2021
852 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 5:53 am to
Maddie’s biggest issue is he is too blindsided for his hate toward Israel. I actually think he is right on Ukraine stance.
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