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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:31 am to NoTSquirrely
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:31 am to NoTSquirrely
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Canadian general arrested in Mariupol
The Russian armed forces arrested Canadian General Trevor Kadier in Mariupol on the night of 2-3 May 2022. He is currently in Moscow awaiting to stand trial.
General Trevor Kadier was apparently not on a mission for his government, but was in charge of biolaboratory No. 1, with 18 staff working under his command.
Even worse, the Canadian General's staff at the bio-weapons lab consisted entirely of Nazis who were on the cusp of launching an invasion into Russia.
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:07 am to Chromdome35
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I'm not talking about this thread on TD, I'm talking about the twitter thread I posted.
Sorry didn't realize you lived in Russia and your son was in the Russian military, my bad.
I also read the thread you posted. LINK
The crazy nonsense quoted was just from it. I'm talking about evasion from the army. Many of us are ready to pay a bribe just to get into the army.
The article at the link, although written in Russian, was written by a person receiving grants, for example, from Soros. I showed this article to my wife and she laughed too.
In an article written for a Western consumer, various fakes are shown, for example, such as a photo where soldiers peel potatoes. This has not happened for 30-40 years.
But if you want to believe what is written there.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:09 am to Coleridge
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Even worse, the Canadian General's staff at the bio-weapons lab consisted entirely of Nazis who were on the cusp of launching an invasion into Russia.
LOL
Good one.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:17 am to ruff fish
I appreciate your insight, I didn't say I believed it, I said it was interesting.
What was your Son's experience with in the Russian army, was it good or bad? Did he witness some of the issues we're hearing about such as low morale, poor leadership, faulty equipment?
I'm truly interested as you are the only legitimate Russian I'm aware of on here.
What was your Son's experience with in the Russian army, was it good or bad? Did he witness some of the issues we're hearing about such as low morale, poor leadership, faulty equipment?
I'm truly interested as you are the only legitimate Russian I'm aware of on here.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:43 am to Chromdome35
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What was your Son's experience with in the Russian army, was it good or bad? Did he witness some of the issues we're hearing about such as low morale, poor leadership, faulty equipment?
I'm truly interested as you are the only legitimate Russian I'm aware of on here.
The experience of serving in the army is certainly wonderful. He served in the missile forces. The second wants to serve as a military pilot.
I myself went to the army, to visit on a visit.
I didn't see any low morale there.
All the equipment was not shown to me. I mean military equipment was not shown. :) The barracks is not a five-star hotel, but not at all like in the photo in the article.
They go to the institute and there is a military department, from where graduates, in addition to the civilian specialty, also acquire a military specialty, receive officer ranks. Naturally junior ranks.
They really don’t take them from the institute / university to the army.
But not in order to evade, but in order for the student to be able to finish his studies normally and not lose his knowledge, for example, in higher mathematics.
You join the army to earn money to pay for education.
And we have education or free education if it studies "good" and "excellent". If the passing score for admission to a university is low, then the student enters and studies on a paid basis. But again, the payment is not like in the USA for half a lifetime, but about 1/4 of my salary.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:55 am to ruff fish
Thank you, I appreciate your candor.
I've heard that support for the invasion of Ukraine is very strong among the Russian population. Would you agree with that? Are you seeing any indication that such support is eroding as the war drags on?
If Putin calls for a general mobilization, how do you think the Russian people will receive that?
I've heard that support for the invasion of Ukraine is very strong among the Russian population. Would you agree with that? Are you seeing any indication that such support is eroding as the war drags on?
If Putin calls for a general mobilization, how do you think the Russian people will receive that?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:15 pm to NoTSquirrely
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Canadian general arrested in Mariupol
The Russian armed forces arrested Canadian General Trevor Kadier in Mariupol on the night of 2-3 May 2022. He is currently in Moscow awaiting to stand trial.
General Trevor Kadier was apparently not on a mission for his government, but was in charge of biolaboratory No. 1, with 18 staff working under his command.
This is very frightening since this sort of claim is what Putin would use to justify using poison gas and bioweapons against Ukraine.
If he does do that, it becomes difficult to predict what additional escalations might occur.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:35 pm to Chromdome35
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've heard that support for the invasion of Ukraine is very strong among the Russian population. Would you agree with that? Are you seeing any indication that such support is eroding as the war drags on?
If Putin calls for a general mobilization, how do you think the Russian people will receive that?
I don't even know how to answer you. I mean, in your question, such a cocktail .... news from your media. that is, far from reality ...
I'll try. Sorry for my bad english.
Is that where you live? In Texas? Imagine a country such as China. It will support the hypothetical American "Gorbachev", who decides to divide the United States into separate states-countries.
Especially in the south and in the north of the United States, people have different accents.
So they are different nations according to perverted political logic.
As a result, Texas becomes an independent country.
Then an intelligent president comes to power in Washington. Let's say Trump. And he begins to collect the country and make it one.
At this time, China begins to pump weapons into Texas, pay for corrupt pro-Chinese politicians, send military instructors and shout to the whole world that Washington is invading Texas!
And now I have a question for you personally, will you consider that Trump, squeezing out external interference from the once unified territory, is invading Texas? And what about the rest of the people in the former United States?
I see many examples when the Russian army in the territories where it enters the population is very friendly.
UPD My wife and mother-in-law are Ukrainian. I am Russian.
And the wife and even the mother-in-law approve of what Putin is doing
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:53 pm to ruff fish
I don't live in Texas, but my wife is from Texas and most of her family lives there.
I understand your question and comments, and I think it poses an interesting question that I don't really know the answer to. I suppose it would depend on the particular circumstances.
If Texas has been an independent, democratic country for 20 years, coexisting peacefully with its neighbors, then I do not think the American public would support an invasion of Texas just to bring it back into the United States against its will.
I understand your question and comments, and I think it poses an interesting question that I don't really know the answer to. I suppose it would depend on the particular circumstances.
If Texas has been an independent, democratic country for 20 years, coexisting peacefully with its neighbors, then I do not think the American public would support an invasion of Texas just to bring it back into the United States against its will.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:02 pm to Chromdome35
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If Texas has been an independent, democratic country for 20 years, coexisting peacefully with its neighbors, then I do not think the American public would support an invasion of Texas just to bring it back into the United States against its will.
And this hypothetically separated Texas does not live peacefully with its neighbors and voices plans to enter into a military bloc with China and even place Chinese military bases on its territory.
Whereas?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:11 pm to ruff fish
As I said, it would be very situationally dependent.
I'm not aware of instances where Ukraine invaded its neighbors; I am aware of 3 times (Crimea, Donbas, and now) Russia invaded, or assisted an invasion of Ukraine and annexed portions of the country. Given this, I'm not sure how your Texas question relates to the situation with Ukraine. In your example, has Texas been invading it's neighbors and annexing parts of them? If so, then the American public would probably support an invasion.
I'm not aware of instances where Ukraine invaded its neighbors; I am aware of 3 times (Crimea, Donbas, and now) Russia invaded, or assisted an invasion of Ukraine and annexed portions of the country. Given this, I'm not sure how your Texas question relates to the situation with Ukraine. In your example, has Texas been invading it's neighbors and annexing parts of them? If so, then the American public would probably support an invasion.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:21 pm to Chromdome35
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As I said, it would be very situationally dependent.
I'm not aware of instances where Ukraine invaded its neighbors; I am aware of 3 times (Crimea, Donbas, and now) Russia invaded, or assisted an invasion of Ukraine and annexed portions of the country. Given this, I'm not sure how your Texas question relates to the situation with Ukraine. In your example, has Texas been invading it's neighbors and annexing parts of them? If so, then the American public would probably support an invasion.
Well, here again, complete ignorance of local realities + news from the American (biased) media.
I already wrote about Crimea earlier, how could Russia invade there, while Ukraine defended it, while there was not only a single one killed, not even a single shot?
98% of people living in Crimea did not want to live in Ukraine. My ancestors are also from the Crimea. Khrushchev once gave it (literally) to Ukraine, which was part of the USSR. It's like changing the border of Texas by adding neighboring territory to Texas.
The Donbass is also not the same as seen from the USA. There was no Russia. It was the locals who did not want to live with fascist Kyiv and wanted to secede. And by force of arms they defended their right, including even to life. Did Russia supply the Donbass with weapons? Of course I supplied.
Now, too, is not an attack, no matter how it looks
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:31 pm to ruff fish
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Now, too, is not an attack, no matter how it looks
When one nation's army crosses the border of another country with the intent to inflict harm on that country, that's an attack. When Germany crossed the border of Russia, was that not an attack?
I believe that by any definition of the word "Attack", the current conflict in Ukraine would be considered an attack by Russia. So if now isn't an attack, what is it?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:42 pm to Chromdome35
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When one nation's army crosses the border of another country with the intent to inflict harm on that country, that's an attack. When Germany crossed the border of Russia, was that not an attack?
Well, the US army entered the territory of Ukraine, began to build a military base in Odessa, the CIA occupied an entire floor in the SBU building and does not let even Ukrainians go there, there is evidence of American biological laboratories in Mariupol and Kherson..
The American army entered Ukraine to benefit Ukraine?
This is not an attack.
An attack from Ukraine has been preparing for a long time.
I have video proofs with a publication date of 2019 and later. The truth is not in English.
What happened on February 24 is a preemptive strike, if you will. And yes, it's like a war. But then remember how, say, the United States is fighting in Raqqa or Mosul.
The Russian Federation surrounded Kyiv, could turn it into rubble. But then the civilians would suffer. This is not included in the plans of the Russian Federation, because this is not a war. We need to remove the fascist government.
Otherwise, there will definitely be a war on his part, and on terms that are not favorable for the Russian Federation
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:49 pm to ruff fish
You can call it whatever you want the rest of the world is calling it an attack and a war.
How will the Russian population react if Ukraine takes back the entirety of the Donbas and Crimea and Russia can't do anything (Short of Nukes) to stop them?
How will the Russian population react if Ukraine takes back the entirety of the Donbas and Crimea and Russia can't do anything (Short of Nukes) to stop them?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:03 pm to ruff fish
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What happened on February 24 is a preemptive strike, if you will.
Yea so this is what is called attacking another country.
The other words you’ve been using are just opinionated rhetoric.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:05 pm to Chromdome35
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You can call it whatever you want the rest of the world is calling it an attack and a war.
How will the Russian population react if Ukraine takes back the entirety of the Donbas and Crimea and Russia can't do anything (Short of Nukes) to stop them?
Who is the "rest of the world"? China, India, all the countries of the former USSR and many others do not think so.
Ukraine will not be able to do this on its own.
The United States will help her and force her allies to help.
If the Russian Federation loses, everyone thinks that there will be a nuclear war between the Russian Federation and the United States. In any case, this is what it's all about. :(
And if this happens, then neither the Russian Federation nor the United States will remain, more or less habitable parts of the planet will go to China.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:07 pm to ruff fish
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The truth is not in English.
Well what language is the "truth" in?
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he Russian Federation surrounded Kyiv, could turn it into rubble. But then the civilians would suffer. This is not included in the plans of the Russian Federation, because this is not a war. We need to remove the fascist government.
If this was the goal, why didn't they invade Kyiv to tackle the government and instead they suddenly changed the objectives to just the east?
And at what point would you say this changes from a "special operation" to a "war"
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:28 pm to StormyMcMan
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Well what language is the "truth" in?
I feel a trick. If not in English then fake?
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If this was the goal, why didn't they invade Kyiv to tackle the government and instead they suddenly changed the objectives to just the east?
And at what point would you say this changes from a "special operation" to a "war"
I wrote that there were not many civilian casualties. Why bomb all of Kyiv in order to destroy 30-50 rulers and simultaneously grind several million civilians like coffee?
This is not Raqqa, there in Kyiv, mostly our relatives are peaceful.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:31 pm to ruff fish
Was the population of Mariupol not peaceful enough?
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