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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:49 pm to beachdude
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:49 pm to beachdude
It’s a thing. The Russians choose to venerate the Soviet Victory in WW2.
The Soviets used Russian nationalism to sell the war effort, so there’s a linkage, and for ordinary people, they’re not thinking about slogans, like workers of the world unite, they’re thinking about their grandfather, or their great grandfather, who fought in the war, and the subsequent victory.
WW2 went on to become the foundational myth of the Soviet Union, and the war, and the victory over the Germans, still resonates with ordinary people, even if Communism and the Soviet Union doesn’t. It’s the good war, the way WW2 is for Americans.
Here’s a photo of Russian soldiers flying the Imperial Flag.
The Soviets used Russian nationalism to sell the war effort, so there’s a linkage, and for ordinary people, they’re not thinking about slogans, like workers of the world unite, they’re thinking about their grandfather, or their great grandfather, who fought in the war, and the subsequent victory.
WW2 went on to become the foundational myth of the Soviet Union, and the war, and the victory over the Germans, still resonates with ordinary people, even if Communism and the Soviet Union doesn’t. It’s the good war, the way WW2 is for Americans.
Here’s a photo of Russian soldiers flying the Imperial Flag.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 11:53 pm to Lima Whiskey
This is my favorite map for tracking the war. Shows generally where individual units are deployed on both sides. For me, it makes it easier to understand what's happening.
your mileage may vary
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your mileage may vary
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 5:25 am to Lima Whiskey
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It’s a thing. The Russians choose to venerate the Soviet Victory in WW2.
Idk why he’s surprised, Americans obsess over the Confederates in the Civil War worst than a skid row coke addict.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:24 am to Palmetto98
I’m proud of my Confederate ancestors.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:53 am to Lima Whiskey
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I’m proud of my Confederate ancestors.
Why, them winning the war would’ve changed us history
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:39 am to Lima Whiskey
Speaking to West Point cadets and faculty, Dr. Phillip Karber describes what he has learned about the Russian way of war from thirty trips he has made to Ukraine, including six months on the front lines of the war in the country's east.
YT
Commentary with slides.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:05 am to Tigers2010a
Okay down voters, tell us why this source isn't valid?
The YouTube guy yall said showed what appeared to be staged bodies. Though he has interviewed several dozens of Ukrainian citizens who say it is Ukrainian troops doing most of the war crimes.
The YouTube guy yall said showed what appeared to be staged bodies. Though he has interviewed several dozens of Ukrainian citizens who say it is Ukrainian troops doing most of the war crimes.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:11 am to GREENHEAD22
Are you talking about Lancaster? My understanding is most of his videos show people complaining about the Ukes more than the Russians in Donbas. But, maybe he goes out looking for that, I don't know. I don't really trust any reporting right now.
Crazy arse Gonzalo Lira, who has been calling Zelensky the Cokehead of Kiev and the SBUs as thugs in his videos and podcasts from Kharkiv, has been missing for a few days. I think they got him.
Crazy arse Gonzalo Lira, who has been calling Zelensky the Cokehead of Kiev and the SBUs as thugs in his videos and podcasts from Kharkiv, has been missing for a few days. I think they got him.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:15 am to Tigers2010a
but wait man, Sean Hannity and the military industrial complex have deputized the greatest American who has ever lived! Sean Penn!
"You were there in November of 2021"
November 2021! Sean's been there the whole time!
"You were there in November of 2021"
November 2021! Sean's been there the whole time!
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:06 am to Chromdome35
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Got a source for that claim. I watch lots of videos from there and I haven't seen any Nazi flags flying in the city yet.
The Ukraine Azov battalion openly have it on their uniforms. the WolfAngel emblem, the Nazi black sun, etc...Wikipedia the Azov Battalion and they have swastika flags on their tanks.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:45 am to TideHater
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The Ukraine Azov battalion openly have it on their uniforms. the WolfAngel emblem, the Nazi black sun, etc...Wikipedia the Azov Battalion and they have swastika flags on their tanks.
What is it about them being "nazis" that bothers you? Are they blitzkrieging through europe and exterminating millions of jews? If not let me know when they have that capability and I might give a shite.
Right now Im guessing youre upset that they are nationalists and have pics with nazi type flags and shite.
that's not a big deal to be honest.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:50 am to Bunk Moreland
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Crazy arse Gonzalo Lira, who has been calling Zelensky the Cokehead of Kiev and the SBUs as thugs in his videos and podcasts from Kharkiv, has been missing for a few days. I think they got him.
Here is some background on Lira. He is American writer and director and has lived for some years in Kharkov. If Azov got a hold of him, he is more than likely dead. If SBU, tortured but maybe alive, maybe not.
LINK
Here is a Youtube in which he accused a Daily Beast writer of trying to get him killed by drawing attention of SBU to him.
LINK
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:56 am to Lima Whiskey
What a clown…. No one deserves to die, but to sit in Karhkiv and spew a bunch of Russian propaganda and not expect consequences is beyond stupid.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:59 am to Sooner5030
they've been massacring people in Donbas for 8 years dumbass
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:04 am to Sooner5030
Russia has more nationalists running around the fringes of its military with nazi symbols and tats…
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:24 am to Bunk Moreland
Yes Lancaster, he has interviewed citizens in two or three different towns that all have similar stories.
A lot is people just walking up to him as he is walking around.
I agree with you on not trusting any reporting right now but his interviews with citizens I give more credence to than other.
A lot is people just walking up to him as he is walking around.
I agree with you on not trusting any reporting right now but his interviews with citizens I give more credence to than other.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:35 am to GREENHEAD22
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Okay down voters, tell us why this source isn't valid?
The YouTube guy yall said showed what appeared to be staged bodies. Though he has interviewed several dozens of Ukrainian citizens who say it is Ukrainian troops doing most of the war crimes.
He's a clown. He claims to be independent but absolutely works with the Russians. He has posted videos from years ago and pretends they're recent. In February he posted of a video of a "Ukrainian IED attack on civilians" which was completely staged...all from the morgue. I'll add a few more ridiculous things he has done here in a little bit. I don't have time at the moment

Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:37 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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they've been massacring people in Donbas for 8 years dumbass
why only 8 years?
what caused this I wonder.
jackass
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:41 am to Tigers2010a
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Here is some background on Lira. He is American writer and director and has lived for some years in Kharkov. If Azov got a hold of him, he is more than likely dead. If SBU, tortured but maybe alive, maybe not.
He’s Coach Red Pill lol
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