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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:11 pm to Tigers2010a
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:11 pm to Tigers2010a
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Too early to see if the Ukrainian army lays down its arms without an urban fight. Russians are isolating major cities and leaving humanitarian corridors open.
Do you mean the humanitarian corridors that Russia has announced but is unable to keep its troops from breaking its own ceasefire and shelling the fleeing civilians in those corridors?
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:20 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Russians With Attitude @RWApodcast Russia has requested a UN Security Council meeting on Friday to discuss U.S. military-biological activities in Ukraine
Getting popcorn…..
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:26 pm to WeeWee
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Do you mean the humanitarian corridors that Russia has announced but is unable to keep its troops from breaking its own ceasefire and shelling the fleeing civilians in those corridors?
No, the ones where Ukrainians are blockading
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:39 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
Russia has requested a UN Security Council meeting on Friday to discuss U.S. military-biological activities in Ukraine
1. Russia is really trying to deflect attention.
2. Bring legit evidence of a weapons operation, otherwise it’s none of Russias business.
3. Is this really the most pressing thing for the UN right now?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:40 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:What other fricking purpose are they for?
Is this really the most pressing thing for the UN right now?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:41 pm to Dirtyboro
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Russians With Attitude @RWApodcast Russia has requested a UN Security Council meeting on Friday to discuss U.S. military-biological activities in Ukraine
Getting popcorn…..
I hope the US asks Russia why the world should believe anything Russia says.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:43 pm to WeeWee
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I hope the US asks Russia why the world should believe anything Russia says.
You think they would bluff on this?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:47 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Do you mean the humanitarian corridors that Russia has announced but is unable to keep its troops from breaking its own ceasefire and shelling the fleeing civilians in those corridors?
No, the ones where Ukrainians are blockading
1. Do you have any sources of that happening that are not getting their information directly from Russian state sponsored media?
2. Are you really going to try and deny that Russia has not broken its own ceasefire multiple times and shelled civilians in those humanitarian corridors?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 6:49 pm to WeeWee
I see zero reason to believe either side is respecting the cease fires.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:05 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's former press secretary Iuliia Mendel tweeted, then quickly deleted, a post saying it would be a 'tragedy' if Vice President Kamala Harris became president.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:05 pm to WeeWee
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Do you mean the humanitarian corridors that Russia has announced but is unable to keep its troops from breaking its own ceasefire and shelling the fleeing civilians in those corridors?
The problem with that theory is the Russians have no incentive to bombard the evacuation corridors. They want them used. In addition, these eastern and southern cities like Mariupol and Karkiv have very high Russian populations. Again these are the people they are suppose to be liberating from Ukrainian oppression.
The only side which has an incentive to block and prevent use of the evacuation corridors are Ukrainian army and government...if you assume high civilian losses will advance the propaganda war.
The Russians would fire on the evacuation corridors if organized and armed Ukrainian troops attempted a breakout using the evacuation corridors.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:07 pm to Smokeyone
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You think they would bluff on this?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:21 pm to WeeWee
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1. Do you have any sources of that happening that are not getting their information directly from Russian state sponsored media?
quote:
“Russian Warship Go F**K Yourself” - the Ukrainian border guards on Snake Island
quote:
WeeWee
May want to change that sig quote before questioning anyone else about state sponsored media.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:27 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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see zero reason to believe either side is respecting the cease fires.
Why should Ukraine respect a unilateral Russian ceasefire?
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:29 pm to Smokeyone
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hope the US asks Russia why the world should believe anything Russia says. You think they would bluff on this?
Well they did lie to the world including the UNSC for months saying that they had no intentions to invade Ukraine.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:35 pm to WeeWee
quote:I never said they should.
1. Why should Ukraine respect a unilateral Russian ceasefire?
quote:Why the frick are you asking me these questions? I’ve never asserted anything you’re saying.
2. Russia denies it has violated its ceasefires or targeted civilians. However you say that you don’t believe it is respecting its ceasefires. Why do you continue to repeat Russian state media talking points if you don’t believe that Russia is respecting its ceasefires? If you don’t believe them on their denial of ceasefire violations, why do you believe them when they claim the Azov battalion is responsible for something?
ETA: well, I do not believe that Russia is purposely targeting civilians for the sole purpose of targeting civilians. I think it’s a mix or the Russians sucking at shooting shite and Ukrainian military using civilian areas to fight from. But I don’t know what the hell the rest of that shite is about.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:38 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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May want to change that sig quote before questioning anyone else about state sponsored media.
1. The saying happened. It’s the deaths of the border guards that may or may not have happened. However the saying part is true. Do you have any proof that the recording of the radio transmission between the Russian warship and the border guards didn’t happen?
2. It’s a badarse line regardless of if it happened as initially reported or not.
3. A story being reported by international news outlets and social media before all the details or full verification of what happened and then having it clarified or revised is not the same thing as the bullshite propaganda that RT is putting out and Timmy is repeating.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:40 pm to WeeWee
quote:You’re correct. Western media is clearly much better at propaganda than Russian media is.
A story being reported by international news outlets and social media before all the details or full verification of what happened and then having it clarified or revised is not the same thing as the bullshite propaganda that RT is putting out and Timmy is repeating.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:40 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Why the frick are you asking me these questions? I’ve never asserted anything you’re saying.
I am on my phone. I thought I was responding to xxTimmyxx. My bad, I will go edit my post accordingly.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:42 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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A story being reported by international news outlets and social media before all the details or full verification of what happened and then having it clarified or revised is not the same thing as the bullshite propaganda that RT is putting out and Timmy is repeating. You’re correct. Western media is clearly much better at propaganda than Russian media is.
Calling the shite that RT has put out over the last two weeks propaganda is an insult to propaganda.
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