re: The narrative that poverty = violence & murder

Vietnamese come here poor as shite.

Check out Viet neighborhoods around the South...0 crime.

Unless someone comes in and commits a crime against them

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well successful people with even decent incomes dont tend to rob,steal,sell drugs to get by. Of course there are always some who do, but the lower class tends to have more of these types but of course not all poor people are bad. There just happens to be alot who are willing to take shortcuts to get by

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This thread is about violent crime

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Right. Why are cities like New Orleans, Baltimore, Chicago, etc. much more violent than San Antonio, El Paso, etc?

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Are you suggesting that certain races account for more violent crimes and murders than others, regardless of income level? I fail to see how that supports the point in your OP. The narrative that poverty = violence & murder is still true through all races.

The same lack of parental involvement that causes kids to act on their impulses, will also cause them to be poor.

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Violent crime has been on a steady decline since roughly 1990.

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Overall, yes, with the exception of the last three to four years where cities like Chicago, Baltimore, NOLA, etc. have been on the increase.

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Detroit is a pretty affordable city. Want to discuss its crime?

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It's had a relatively consistent crime rate, although that's a negative since the rates of declined overall.

Race has a very high correlation to violent crime, this is an iffefutable fact!

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Right. Detroit poor folk have just as shitty/or worse standard of living than in the two Hispanic dominant cities I've listed, yet has violent crime that dwarfs either city.

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Detroit is one of the poorest cities in the country. Census bureau: Detroit is poorest big city in U.S.

So I'm not sure if this is a good comparison.

Detroit is also very affordable. Wasn't that the premise of your first reply?

I believe the connection is overblown by liberals. But it probably has something of an indirect connection. Poverty can cause people to become engaged in the drug trade if they can't make a living through more lawful ways. And becoming involved in the drug trade can lead to murder.

To be fair on blacks it is harder to commit crime if you're in Appalachia and your nearest neighbor is half a mile away. With that being said parts of black culture do glamorize crime.