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re: The major difference between the two competing worldviews

Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:20 am to
it boils down to this: we're not converting globalists to our worldview at the point of a sword, they are
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296144 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:21 am to
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The conservative movement is all about $ and power. Not righteousness.


Whats the progressive movement about?
Posted by Gehrig
Member since Jul 2023
37 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:23 am to
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Whats the progressive movement about?

Replacing white people with nonwhites
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75182 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:24 am to
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This side does not believe in God, or one true God, however they do believe in many gods or idols, and believe they can be god.

It all goes back to the first lie:

quote:

You shall not surely die.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296144 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:26 am to
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Replacing white people with nonwhites



"You need collectivism because.."

Imagine being a perpetual victim.
Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
258 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:27 am to
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The conservative movement is all about $ and power. Not righteousness.


Don't fool yourself, BOTH of these theoretical sides described by the OP is about money and power.

There are plenty of progressives who are filthy rich and while they may give some of their money and power away tell me one that has given it ALL away before dying or knowing they are dying.
Posted by Gehrig
Member since Jul 2023
37 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:31 am to
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"You need collectivism because.." Imagine being a perpetual victim.

Politics is group struggle.

You have an j sanely childish ideology. It's literally just hoping other people see things your way.

Everyone else acts as a GROUP. You, mr individual, will get crushed. That's Game Theory 101.

I can't believe in this day and age people still have your ideology. Literal colorblind, we're all the same, nothing else matters except for free markets and GDP.

I loathe you. You are worse than BLM.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296144 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:42 am to
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Politics is group struggle.


If you so choose.

Your best bet is to find a community that fits your profile and give up on altering a failing State.

The population is getting dumber and less capable, you will get all the collectivism you desire.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9042 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:49 am to
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Assuming you have a worldview, that's a cop out.


How so? I acknowledge my worldview isnt gospel and is certainly different from others.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9937 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:53 am to
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The West has far more Christian values than the East though


Tell me what is so Christian about taxing me on the wages I earn?

Also, what is "Christian" about Joe Biden or the lying news propagandists?


Random people saying "Christian values" as a side to be opposed to another side in some conflict is really no different than the BS we were fed about how "Muslims hate our Western values and that's why we will have to fight them over there". When really they just wanted us to GTFO of their part of the world.
Posted by Gehrig
Member since Jul 2023
37 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:55 am to
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It's really just East vs. West again, with Christianity, Islam, Atheism, etc, spread out between all sides. The West has far more Christian values than the East though.

Aren't you Jewish?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:57 am to
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One side is all about libertarian "individualism". This includes both GOP's and Dems.

One side recognizes group/societal/civilizational interests.


gehrig has it. 100%

the civilization will not zurvive unless local and regional powers cooperate.

china and india have the most people and the least interest in big picture civilization issues.

china attempted one child and failed.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296144 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:01 am to
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gehrig has it. 100%


When communists and fascists agree.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8687 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:08 am to
The side that largely wants to be left alone and live.

vs.

The side that has anointed themselves as the enlightened and want to get all in your business with how you live your life or even think.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296144 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:12 am to
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The side that largely wants to be left alone and live.


Its collectivism vs freedom

Authority vs liberty

Conservatives typically believe in individual merit. Collectivists believe in moving the herd at an equal pace.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6353 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:25 am to
I think the 2 sides are

worship of a higher power vs worship of the self
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17404 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:43 am to
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Aren't you Jewish?


You are obsessed with Jews. 1945 was a long time ago. You should be over it by now.
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